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post 1992 all British vans apart from small makers of expensive vans were cris reg and the windows etched.the vans from abroad will not be covered.

CRiS Explained Details of the Caravan Registration & Identification Scheme

Sorry but isn't not registering it the wrong thing to do and defeats the point and protection of the CRIS scheme or am I missing something?

Quote: Originally posted by Mozann on 13/5/2009

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What does happen?

If a new owner does try to re-register and the van is then flagged as stolen, what is the proceedure?

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Quote: Originally posted by J Stimpson on 13/5/2009

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Sorry but isn't not registering it the wrong thing to do and defeats the point and protection of the CRIS scheme or am I missing something?

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Went through this last year;

A new van turned up on the site where I keep mine, it was also the same van as mine albeit a year older and that's where I got involved.

The owner asked me to date it for him so he could insure it, I knew it was 94-5 but no Cris numbers on the windows? eventually found the VIN number on the Chassis which had been tampered with. The last digit was a '5' but had been altered to look like an '8'

Anyway as soon as he tried to insure it, it came up as 'flagged' because the theft was recent, the previous owners he told me had had it a couple of years but it turned out to have been stolen a couple of months before he bought it!!

Police were involved and did all the local enquires proving, somehow? the previous owner and who sold it them were not involved in the theft and the trail was cold after that.

This left the guy to negotiate with the insurance company to keep it, they got as he put it 'stroppy' so he contacted the Caravan Club to sort it out. Upshot being, the Insurance accepted £50 and called it quits!!

He's now the proud owner of a legit van which is insurable!! the point being you have to give the VIN number to get it insured! Alternately you can 'keep stum' don't insure it and panic every time someone gets to close for a look!!

If as you say it's advertised as a 90 and turning out to be 94 means it quite likely is stolen, however, how do you know it's 94? as you say it's not Cris marked? I'm trying to think when they stopped making them, I thought they finished before 94?

So if I understand right the suggestion was not to bother with CRIS reg as it might be a former stolen one, but if this is the case you can't insure it anyway. Plus aren’t you helping people who steel in the first place if vans if you do not CRIS register and use the system – I know its not compulsory but its better than nothing and any thing we can do to make it harder for thieves the better.

Therfor isn't better to check out CRIS before buying it?

Also I think CRIS reg from 1992 applies to UK manufactured vans?

If you don’t insure it and it gets stolen or badly damaged and rendered unusable isn't that as bad if not worse than finding out that it might have been stolen (It may not have). Given the example quoted by Gary they might well be able to buy the van for a nominal rate.

Also if bought from a dealer don't you have any come back if the van has previously been stolen?

Question ? would it just be better when buying a new van to phone a insurance company and give them Chassis Number and that would save you the costof checking the CRiS number. And if it was not a CRiS reg van then you would be ok anyway

Dee x x x x x

First and correcting myself, the Sterling range of Sprites finished in 1997 but sorry to perhaps muddy the water a bit more?, is this van an  'XL' or 'Excel' ??