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16/6/2018 at 11:06am
 Location: Solihull
 Outfit: Coachman VIP 575
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I'm currently on site, and just gone to turn the gas on. It's a red propane bottle and when I opened it( unscrewed the valve), there's a hissing noise coming out of it.
I've turned it off now.
What's the problem with it?


16/6/2018 at 11:20am
 Location: Wigan
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Could be the valve is faulty.

If there is a warden on site, ask them to have a look at it. Failing that, take it to a place to exchange it and ask them to inspect it.
I wouldn't risk leaving it as it is.


16/6/2018 at 12:17pm
 Location: Midlands
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Split hose?


16/6/2018 at 12:24pm
 Location: Sheffield
 Outfit: Lunar Quasar 534
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Rubber washer missing?


16/6/2018 at 12:31pm
 Location: Solihull
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Checked the hose and all seems Ok, caravan new 12 months ago.
The other thing is there's no smell of gas .


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16/6/2018 at 3:01pm
 Location: NE Scotland
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Have you tried brushing on some soapy water around the area you think the leak originated?

If there’s a leak it should be easily located and there should be a distinctive smell of LPG.

I’ve never listened at the valve when an appliance is switched on, but perhaps an appliance - cooker/oven/heater/fridge is “on” and you are hearing gas passing through?

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16/6/2018 at 3:56pm
 Location: Lichfield
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You haven't stated whether it's a loud or quiet hiss or that you even have a gas hose connected to the gas cylinder in which case it WILL give out a hiss if you just open the valve without anything connected it which sounds very much like in your posting information. A bit more info may help to detect the problem.


16/6/2018 at 5:33pm
 Location: Solihull
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Hi,
Everything is connected, just needed to open the valve on top of the cylinder. When you undo the valve it's a loud hissing noise which goes away when the valve is turned off
Everything was fine last time we used the van


16/6/2018 at 6:06pm
 Location: Lichfield
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Sounds very much like a defective shut off valve then at the top of the gas cylinder. I would return it to a dealer as soon as possible for a replacement as it is dangerous and not fit for purpose.


16/6/2018 at 6:16pm
 Location: Solihull
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That's my thought. Going home tomorrow but everything turned off and disconnected in the meantime. Just strange how it's been fine up to now.

Thanks for your replies


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16/6/2018 at 7:46pm
 Location: Glasgow
 Outfit: Elddis Avante 454
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Why was it turned off? As you say you are going home tomorrow I guess you have been on the site and using gas before this morning.
Have you checked that the pipe is screwed tightly into the cylinder? With red bottles there is not normally a rubber washer but the connection is gas tight if it is tight, some need a spanner but newer ones are tightened by hand.

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We had 127 nights away in the caravan in 2023.


16/6/2018 at 9:26pm
 Location: Sheffield
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The lightweight 6kg calor gas bottle certainly do have a rubber washer.It is cone shaped and attached to the gas pipe connection.If you lose this there is no seal and gas will escape.I know because it happened to me


16/6/2018 at 9:38pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Paul + June on 16/6/2018
The lightweight 6kg calor gas bottle certainly do have a rubber washer.It is cone shaped and attached to the gas pipe connection.If you lose this there is no seal and gas will escape.I know because it happened to me


I use the standard red propane bottles and they don't have a washer, I did not realise that other red bottles do have them. It is good to learn.

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16/6/2018 at 10:50pm
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A few years ago I swapped from the standard nut connection (where you have to use an open ended spanner) to a handwheel type because not is it only more convenient not needing a spanner but the domed nozzle is rubber rather than Brass so you are guaranteed a 100% seal every time. No more worries about gas leaks coming directly from the connection thread which I think is much safer.


17/6/2018 at 8:46am
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Sounds to me like it's regulator or a valve.. if it was leaking to the atmosphere you would defiantly smell it.


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I have switched to the FloGas light ( fibre glass ) bottles due to the balls up with the calories lites....Very impressed although I have to use a 27mm clip on regulator and would have preferred a shut off valve type regulator



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