I think we all need to comply with the rules of the camp-site.
If they say 11-7, then there should be no loud music, raised voices, door slamming or whatever between those hours. Total silence is unrealistic, but all campers should be as quiet as possible and consider others.
If you don't like that rule, go to a site without rules.
Those of us who like a bit of peace and quiet during the night should stick to the sites with the rules.
That way we will all be happy. After all, we do have a choice, and we should chose a site that suits our requirements.
I don't think anyone has said they want complete silence between certain hours just not excessive noise, you can happily sit outside having a chat until 4am if you so choose but is it such a hardship not to raise your voice? low chatter wouldn't keep anyone awake same goes for teaching kids not to scream at 7am, get them to play quietly, my brother & I had no problems with this when we were kids camping.
I was agreeing that total silence is not what is expected by most of us, just that people should be as quiet as possible and remember that some of us like a good night's sleep.
I suspect that those campsites that have rules such as "no noise after 11 pm (or some time)" have found this to be the only effective solution. Reading all the posts so far (for and against) it appears (to me) that an appeal to keep noise to a reasonable level would always be abused by someone, simply because everyone considers themself to be oh so perfectly reasonable and considerate and keeping to a perfectly acceptable level of sound.
Requests for "reasonable" this or that will always be abused; the old saying of "Give them an inch and they'll take a yard" springs to mind...
There have already been posters "suggesting" where other posters should holiday, merely because of different viewpoints - much simpler (IMO) for the campsite owners to be the arbitrator of exactly how the rules should be enforced, and if you fall foul - hard luck; you know in future where to avoid, and you can find another site where your desires and requirements are considered reasonable and acceptable.
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As a caravanner without kids (too old now and the wife doesn't want to start again!) my rules for kids on site are
Just comply with the site rules and observe normal campsite etiquette. Ball games in the designated area; no walking across another campers pitch etc.
My rules for parents
Just comply with the site rules and observe normal campsite etiquette. Ball games in the designated area; no walking across another campers pitch etc.
keep an eye on your kids, know what they are doing when and where. Kids will be kids and need a steer every now and again whether it be on a camp site or elsewhere.
Ensure that your kids observe the one way system. Apart from not wanting the car bumped, its just so much in your kids best interests.
Be with your kids
So more rules for parents because if there is a problem on a site with kids, from what I have seen its actually the parents to blame.
Oh and its always nice when your kids say "good morning".
Phil
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Quote: Originally posted by jennifernn on 19/8/2011
I was agreeing that total silence is not what is expected by most of us, just that people should be as quiet as possible and remember that some of us like a good night's sleep.
Hi Jen, my post wasn't a reply to yours, sorry, it just read that way because it was next to yours in the list, it was a response to the people posting incorrectly saying some of us seem to expect total silence.
It's frustrating that if anyone puts a post mentioning they dont like balls/bikes near the vans then they're accused of hating all kids and if anyone mentions not liking loud noise at antisocial hours they're accused of expecting total silence, neither of which is true.
It depends what you believe are anti-social hours I suppose. If you go to bed with the setting sun and rise with the lark then anything between dusk and dawn must be anti-social.
I am of the opinion that no one can expect complete silence on a campsite, it is all down to basic consideration.
I would not, however, expect loud music to be played, or late night shouting and rowdy behaviour on a campsite I was staying on, which is why I pick my sites carefully. (Thanks UKCS!)
I have no problem with people chatting at night, providing they keep it down to a reasonable level.
As far as children are concerned, my children have never been complained about when camping because they were taught basic consideration for others whether camping or not, manners, kindness (my 12 year old son opens doors for others as a matter of course, for example) keeping voices down when others are sleeping early mornings or in the evening, not going onto other people's pitch, or playing with a ball other than on the designated areas, yet they were allowed to still play, and have the freedom that camping can give them. I would be unhappy if other parents let their children run around on other people's pitches, screaming and kicking footballs at other people's set ups, whether caravan or tent.
Like another person who commented, I also have had the experience of a family meal out where a toddler was allowed to run around the restaurant screaming, and the parents in hot pursuit, actually laughing while others had their meal disturbed, while waiting staff were trying to carry hot food, and even let the child run behind the bar(!), unfortunately the child was that of another family member, and I could see the horror on my children's faces, afterwards they said to me 'Mum, you would never have allowed us to do that!'.
It is all down to the parents how children behave, and sadly many parents do not seem to be bothered to enforce basic discipline, and expect the rest of us to put up with disruption and disturbance, and use the excuse 'oh they're just children', then wonder why the little darling turns into an out of control teenager!
I love to see children enjoying themselves and having fun, and the majority do just that, but also know when to stop, and how to consider others, and accept rules as just that.
Having said that, with the loud and loutish behaviour of some adults on sites, luckily for us, not that often, it is unsurprising that their children are the same!
I would say that quiet to be expected between 11pm and 7am was reasonable.
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I prefer to go to sites without children,I love the sound of them playing but far away from me,
That might sound miserable but I go on holiday for peace and quiet.
I have been camping on family sites and had children staring through my awning while i am trying to relax.
also no supervision as soon as the beer/wine appears.
sometimes its the parents that make more noise than the children by shouting at the poor kids.
so as I say I go to Adult only sites-shame about dog owners though!
have fun, the children will always remember their hols, it builds up good memories.
I don't believe it's a case of children not welcome at sites or people hating children, I think it's a case of people wanting consideration & respect shown for themselves and their property.
For example, not amusing if you've spent thousands on a caravan to have somebody damage it with a cricket ball, or some oaf open their car door onto your parked car and put a dint in it.
Unfortunately, there seems to be an increasing number of camping yobs who are oblivious to anybody but themselves, hopefully with this type, the camping novelty will soon wear off.
exactly! Unfortunately in this day and age there seem more and more people who don't give a s***t as long as they are doing what they want.
Maybe Camp sites should install warnings like this ???
www.flickr.com/photos/dutchcowgirls/5120835411/
On the Serious side yes let the kids have fun but a few basic rules like I set mine certainly don't hurt them.
But . . . There are just common sense ???
No noise whilst the camp site is quiet.
Never walk into other peoples area.
And ball games Frisbee etc. in the designated area ONLY.
Simple. And all is happy.
And a warning to other parents you need to know what your children are doing for there own safety.
Then can be as easily hurt or abducted from a camp site as they can the streets !!!!
I agree that because someone Doesn’t want a broken window or damaged tent it does not make them Anti children but sadly there are some out there.
And all I can say to them is there are Adult only sites but as far as I am aware there is no with children only sites ???
Ok we have just done a Thursday to Sunday on a caravan and camping site in West Lancashire, we were pitched next to the tent field and we were not fussed about that, in the tent closest to us were a family of two Adults and three kids all under ten years of age, the parents were giving the booze some hammer in the afternoon and the Woman seemed intent on playing the same song over and over but hey ho it was a nice day so we didnt mind , this went on until the evening, at midnight we needed our sleep but the same song went on again only this time louder, i phoned the site owner and asked him to stop the music he duly did this .
The next day we were fishing on the camp sites fishing pond it has four, the three kids came round without their parents and with a small fishing net to hand the youngest girl who is no more than 3 or 4 years old lied on a fishing peg face down and tried to catch small fish , now this pond is at least ten foot deep, my hubby asked her to get up and stay away from the water the kids ran off to the next pond laughing .
During the day these kids were left to do what they wanted they were going on other peoples pitches and throwing stones or filling plastic bottles with water and throwing that at each other, all the time the parents played music and seemed to be getting drunk ,
on Saturday night the Mother thought she would hold a rave and played some of that deep bass boom boom music , we think she hoped that others would hear it and join in she was wrong and thankfully the music was turned off by ten .
We dont mind a bit of music we dont mind people sitting out and chatting with a beer or glass of wine but when the ear plugs dont block out the music and site rules are broken by unruly kids then yes we will report it .
xx Gill
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