They turned the music down without question when you asked them to (didn't you say they even apologised?) - I don't therefore see that they were being inconsiderate, just enjoying their evening and not realising, until it was pointed out to them, that they were being so loud. Had they NOT turned the music down, or had the noise gone on after 11pm, then they would have been inconsiderate.
I don't blame you for asking them to turn the music down - there is nothing worse than having music inflicted on you that you don't want to hear (ScampisOH decided on Sunday morning to make sure that the speakers for our i-Pod would be adequate for our wedding party next weekend .... eventhough he used my i-Pod, I didn't want to listen to it then, nor at the volume he was using and I threatened, quite forcefully, to cut the ****ing plug off the ****ing thing if he didn't turn it off, NOW!!!), but when a group is having a good evening together, it's very easy to not realise how loud it's getting.
I agree with you Scampi. 9.30pm is not an unreasonable time. If it was 11.30pm fair enough! Everyone is entitled to enjoy their break how they want and they did turn the music down when asked ,they maybe just didn't realise how loud it was. They sound like reasonable people to me. Its the drunken lout still shouting at 3.00am that seem to be the biggest problem at some sites and thank goodness we have never had that !!
I still don't get this.One caravan out of around 120 can have music blaring out along with the usual party noise and this is acceptable at any time up to 11 o'clock at night. What about the other 119 campers. Do they have to stop reading because they can't concentrate, not have that nap after a long walk,babies and young children have to have ear plugs in so they can get to sleep,others can't relax and sunbathe, turn televisions off because they can't be heard. Of course they do because Plot Number ? wants a party and we all have to listen to the din.'Everyone is entitled to enjoy their break how they want' as Caroline has said.So there we go,we wanted to enjoy our weekend away as well.This music was blaring out from 6.00pm. I think that after listening to it for over three and half hours was enough. I know I wasn't the only one who heaved a sigh of relief when they turned it down.Yes, they did turn it down when asked and that was very kind of them but a little more thought in the first place would have helped. Have parties, enjoy your music, nobody is saying you can't but there is a limit to what is acceptable noise.Caravan walls are thin and on sites the caravans are quite close together especially when awnings are up.It's not like being at home is it?
I did agree with you about asking them to turn it down Path20 - your request was not unreasonable. But as the people having the get-together turned the music down on request, and were apologetic, they were not being unreasonable - they just didn't realise their 'noise' was bothering anyone. It's not a lack of thought for others, it's just an oversight. Have you never been with friends and simply not realised how much your converstation/laughter or whatever was carrying to others, even at home??
I do love get-togethers Scampi and enjoy a good natter and a laugh.Sometimes we have friends round in the awning in the evening and after a couple of bottles we can get a bit noisy with chatter and laughter but still try to keep the noise level down..I do agree that sometimes you can get carried away and perhaps thats what they did without realising it.
I am sure that was the case. They just didn't realise they were upsetting anyone. Perhaps your title for the thread was just a little harsh maybe "oblivious campers" may have been better
The owner of a site we sometimes go to is one of the most helpful and reasonable men I have ever met, but he strictly forbids TV's from being used in awnings. And the reason is so that adjacent caravanners are not unduly disturbed by excessive noise. There is no argument against people enjoying themselves on camp sites. But in exercising their freedom to do so, they are still obligated to ensure that adjacent campers are not forced to share their choice of enjoyment.
There is an old saying that "empty vessels make the most noise". Away from the camp sites, perhaps these noisy people have empty lives.
I think whether you regard something as too noisy or not depends on whether you like the noise. If someone is playing music that we like we will tolerate it much louder than if it's music we don't like.
Quote: Originally posted by Fat Bum on 11/9/2007
I think whether you regard something as too noisy or not depends on whether you like the noise. If someone is playing music that we like we will tolerate it much louder than if it's music we don't like.
Absolutely spot on!!!!!
That just about sums it up. I am afraid to say that you would be buggered if I decided to crank up the tunes on my iPod - there is everything from Nine Inch Nails to folk compilations that would make Mike Harding proud. I would think twice about blasting thrash metal across a campsite - but on more than one occasion I have been sitting outside my tent or van clicking out a tune on my Bodhrán and tipper and been asked to get a bit louder or faster by campers nearby.
I am sure that every one of us has been unaware of the effect our actions have on others at some point in our lives. Are any of us so perfect that we cannot benefit from a quiet word sometimes? I know I'm not!
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