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10/8/2010 at 6:27pm
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My caravan is in storage 250 miles away. I am having a mover fitted in 2 weeks and I am sure that the dealer will try to encourage me to replace my tyres which are 4 years old. I would like to research the cost of these tyres before so that I am happy that he is doing me a good deal. My question therefore is does anyone know what tyre I have fitted to my 2004 Bailey Pageant Bordeaux.

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10/8/2010 at 7:17pm
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Hi Nigel

All the 2006 Bailey Pageant's including the Bordeaux had a tyre size of 195/70, R14 L196.

Hope this may help you

Regards

Mike



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Thanks Mike , are they most likely to be the same size on my 2004 as well then?

thanks

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Hi Nigel

Not 100% sure, ring bailey customer service they would know for sure (I hope).

Also if you look here at the 2006 5 series is yours the same technical spec etc as the Bordeaux listed http://www.penrosetouring.co.uk/acatalog/pageant_series_5.pdf

you will note all have the same tyres

Mike

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Right found theseand compared to some previous posts on here they appear to be at a good price. Any comments?

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There's been a lot of discussion about this now near obsolete size of tyre, impossible to get on the Continent.
Also in a lot of cases it's being loaded to it's full capacity, while it's widely excepted the tyre is loaded to give an extra 10% extra margin of safety over it's stated maximum load.
With that in mind you may want to take a look at this page a little narrower which don't matter but more importantly exactly the same diameter, and with a load index of 102, well up to the job.

Note, tyre pressure will be different.


11/8/2010 at 8:32am
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Thanks Gary but my German is a little poor. can you point me to this tyre on the uk version

 



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Dont know about your tyre size but may i suggest you change your tyres as they have been sitting in storrage.It is recommended that you change tyres every three years no matter what the milage also if they have been sitting still for long periods.Your tyres may be older than four years, check the date stamp on the side walls they may have sat in storrage for long periods before you buy them and you might be surprised to learn they are older from the date you bought them.


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How very very odd? I used your link and simply changed the tyre size then copied that link, it was in English then?!

Anyway the most suitable size is 185/75x14C LI102, you could also choose 175/80x14C LI102, both the same diameter as your originals at 634mm

Being 'Commercial' tyres and common stock sizes, these are widely available everywhere, plus more suitable

Correct tyre pressure to suit hte weight of your van here



11/8/2010 at 11:22am
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185 75 14 is also a size that is not so comon gary can you not fit the normal 185 14 c lots chaeper due to popularity as it fits many more vehicles


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Quote: Originally posted by arc systems on 10/8/2010

Also in a lot of cases it's being loaded to it's full capacity, while it's widely excepted the tyre is loaded to give an extra 10% extra margin of safety over it's stated maximum load.



Whilst that might have been true up to the nineties that makers used the extra speed capability to "grant" themselves the right to overload the tyre, try telling the VOSA man that is why your overloading them.
Even bigger challenge, try the French authorities if your stopped on the Autoroute where the load rating must be valid for 130km/h.


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Well Simon I'd agree with you but Swift reckon they are widely available? and recommend them to replace the 195/70x14 96

As for the 175/80x14, apart from two stages thinner which is irrelevant apart from 'looks'! these would be my choice.

I thought though you would comment on 3 years being recommended for changing? at this rate it will be measured in months before long?!

Tyresafes current recommendation does away with a fixed age, current thinking is tyres should be thoroughly checked every year and changed when signs of wear or age become evident, whether that's one year or ten!

Makes sense to me



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yes i was going to but some rude customer came in lol!

on that subject i have just removed soem 10 year old michelins from a car with no tread bot there was not a sign of perishing any where on the tyre they were the 2 original tyres fitted to the car.

 



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Looks like 185/75 R14C Goodyear Cargos at £48 then

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Quote: Originally posted by JTQU on 11/8/2010
Quote: Originally posted by arc systems on 10/8/2010

Also in a lot of cases it's being loaded to it's full capacity, while it's widely excepted the tyre is loaded to give an extra 10% extra margin of safety over it's stated maximum load.



Whilst that might have been true up to the nineties that makers used the extra speed capability to "grant" themselves the right to overload the tyre, try telling the VOSA man that is why your overloading them.
Even bigger challenge, try the French authorities if your stopped on the Autoroute where the load rating must be valid for 130km/h.





You may have misunderstood, I know they used to use a 10% 'speed bonus' allowing 110% of the tyres stated maximum to be applied as long as the speed is kept down

More lately the tyre has 'only' been loaded to it's stated maximum, better again as this gives more safety margin than the above

I'm talking though of the current recommendation of using only 90% of the tyres maximum, this giving a 10% extra margin of safety regardless of either of the proviso's above

Post last edited on 11/08/2010 17:53:40



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tell you what thats a good price i cant even find them in stock !!!!



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