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17/10/2010 at 8:00pm
 Location: Devon
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Does anyone have any idea why a 2001 caravan would not have a CRIS number only a chassis number.  The reason I ask is a friend is looking at a van without a cris number only a chassis number.  I know CRIS numbers were taken into use in 1992.

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17/10/2010 at 8:05pm
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CRIS regestration has been in use on all UK manufactured caravans since 1992. Imported caravans are not always put on the register. Is the van in question a UK built van?


17/10/2010 at 8:06pm
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Yes a UK build van an Elddis



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17/10/2010 at 8:21pm
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Do your friend a big favour and suggest they friend find another caravan!

Something is not right for sure!

Mike



17/10/2010 at 8:30pm
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Maybe the 'van is much older or it was originally sold in Holland, is the door on the right?


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17/10/2010 at 8:44pm
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Now I didn't think about an export model, the door is on the left hand side.  No CRIS numbers on the windows. Seller says 2001 model but I can only find listings from 2002

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17/10/2010 at 11:05pm
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What date does the chassis say? Does it match the date in question?

Maybe the windows have been replaced at some time and not etched? But highly unlikely all would be like it!

I think you can still check with CRIS via the chassis number if the van has been registerd with them. When I changed the CRIS ownership on my van to me upon purchasing, they take the Chassis number and etchings to match the van up. I would advise you do this just incase its been stolen and they are trying to hide its identity. A Check with CRIS costs around £15 I think..

Bear in mind the current seller maynot be aware there's a problem, if hes an owner down the line, he may have brought the van in good faith and be none the wiser. But for peace of mind its worth checking. If in doubt walk away.



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17/10/2010 at 11:28pm
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Last one like this I was involved with had been stolen within the previous 6 months, it's easy to polish off the windows but difficult to remove the VIN number stamped into the chassis.

I found the vin on the chassis and took a photo, blown up, it clearly showed the last digit had been altered from a 5 to an 8.

In the case of an Elddis, the year number is the one after 'EL' in the VIN number


18/10/2010 at 10:40am
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Just remember that if it is stolen and the boys in blue locate it they can take it off you to return it the legal owner and you have to try and chase your seller to get your money back.  Generally, someone selling a stolen van will not feel inclined to do the honourable thing and give you your money back!!!! If CRiS check the VIN number and cannot reconcile it with their records look for another van.

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18/10/2010 at 11:24am
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tell him to walk away,not worth the aggravation.

Decipher VIN number



Post last edited on 18/10/2010 11:51:21

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18/10/2010 at 7:58pm
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My friend spoke to HPI today and they advised to be very careful.  Plus with everbody's comments on this great forum have now decided to stay clear.  Thank you.

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19/10/2010 at 9:24am
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your welcome,wise choice.



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