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21/11/2010 at 10:40pm
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Is anyone else out there getting concerned about the number of caravan sites who are increasing Seasonal Pitches.

A friend and I have just come off of a holiday on another camp site which is increasing pitches to the extent that there are more seasonal than not.

I know loads of really friendly considerate seasonal campers, but am seeing more and more that definately are not, quite a few who I suspect seem to be treating this type of holiday as a make do until the recession ends and they can afford to fly off abroad for four weeks of the year again.

The behaviour was so bad with these campers in my last holiday, it seemed like there was going to be a small battle between the seasonal pitchers and the general campers, not what you go on holiday for.

I wonder what's going to happen to these campsites in a few short years when the money starts to flow again and the yobs leave the Costa.

Apologies to the considerate seasonal pitchers out there, this is in no way directed to you.



21/11/2010 at 11:10pm
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One of my favourite sites has increased its number of seasonal pitches in the last twelve months or so. It's quite a popular site, but it still used to be possible to ring up literally the day before you wanted to go and you would get a pitch - now you have to book weeks in advance (months for bank holidays) or you won't get on, as there are now so few touring pitches left.

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22/11/2010 at 7:40am
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Seasonal pitches are great, lets have more so that you could choose a differant area each year,in other words it works both ways.

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Bring it on. I'd quite like a seasonal next year. We both tour some years and seasonal others. Never met any unpleasant seasonal, I have met unpleasant & inconsiderate tourers.

I do not believe you can categorise people because of their type of accomodation be they seasonal, tourers, tenters, homers. There's good & bad in all as in life generally.



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If you mean tourers sited for the season, I suppose campsites make more income per pitch, pa, from a seasonal let so they will have as many seasonal sited tourers as there is demand.

I suppose seasonally pitched tourers could well be used by extended families which may include a 'yob' element.

If you mean more pitches being built for mobile homes this is a considerable long term investment & hardly a cheaper alternative to a Spanish package hol. Again they are often used by extended families & also rented out so I suppose the clientele could lower the tone of the place.

Obviously campsite owners need to maximize profits, hence the drift toward permanent lets which provide guaranteed income.

I don't see a connection between seasonal pitches & Spanish package holidays tho. Plenty of folk do both. I don't think one is an alternative to the other.


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22/11/2010 at 11:22am
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both caravan clubs were set up with tents and caravans in mind.a place you can ring up and book your holidays for the year.nothing wrong with a seasonal pitch as its not permanent.my concern is the large number of statics being placed on these sites with 10 and 20 year agreements for those that can afford.all this ground can no longer be used by tents and touring caravans, and as the years go by the number of pitches available is diminishing.mainly at popular sites.just my observation.

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I have a seasonal pitch in cornwall. reason being, I love cornwall so much and i cant see the point me pulling a van 365 miles each way,  The owners of campsite`s are feeling the pinch too,with petrol prices.

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22/11/2010 at 9:58pm
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Im cool with Seasonal pitches, I've considered it myself a few times, just seem to be noticing less touring pitches on quite a few sites. 

We are seeing more inconsiderate seasonaly caravaners, three times this year.  Never in previous years.

Agreed on the point on stats, but between the stats and the seasonal pitches, the no of pitches for touring seems to be reducing at a rate to worry about in some areas.

I think the problem is worse on the bigger family sites with lots of facilities and a good head of tourers.

We are looking at the CC and the CCC and I suspect this is the way we will go.

 



25/11/2010 at 8:25pm
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ive had my van sited last season and the site im on used to take tents and tourers,but now its going to be just seasonal tourers as the site manager said they sometimes had rowdy groups,i dont think its a bad idea as you know everyone and people do look after the site and shower blocks more as your returning regular.


26/11/2010 at 10:27am
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Post last edited on 26/11/2010 10:36:18

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Quote: Originally posted by wiganer on 25/11/2010
ive had my van sited last season and the site im on used to take tents and tourers,but now its going to be just seasonal tourers as the site manager said they sometimes had rowdy groups,i dont think its a bad idea as you know everyone and people do look after the site and shower blocks more as your returning regular.
your right, god there are some animals that visit sites, when the touring season slows down, theres no damage etc to the site,

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just dont go there.


27/11/2010 at 1:21pm
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Hi, thanks for postings, interesting.

There are bad in all groups, but our last experience was particulary poor, a group of four or five vans owners on seasonal pitches decided to bring the party home from the site club, and were still letting fire works off at nearly 2 in the morning inbetween there vans.

Most of the family's in the touring pitches, and some in other seasonal pitches were pretty put out by this behaviour.  The verbal feedback from the fools doing this was that as they had seasonal pitches, they payed a yearly rate, and had more rights than people who were there just for a couple of weeks.  Very strange opinion.

Security attended, but as soon as they left the fireworks continued, the guilty campers then decided that it was a good idea to empty all bottles individully into the bottle bin, this would be at about 0230, the bottle bin they used was the one in the middle of the touring pitches.

So, what we witnessed, was a real them and us culture being initiated and promoted by this group (not all) of seasonal pitch holders. 

The following morning when family's were emerging, there were quite a few embaressed and hung over faces from those involved.

Most of the seasonal pitch holders were excelant, my posting is about this inconsiderate breed of caravaners we seem to be seeing increased amounts of.  Although they also exist in touring fields, this group do seem to be attracted to the seasonal set up.

It is true to say I am concerned about increasing numbers of Seasonal pitches and as posted above static vans taking over spaces which were previously touring pitches.  Seems to be a trend, and for those of us who enjoy hitching up and taking to the road, a worrying one.

That is not to say I am against Seasonal pitches, just concerned that the balance is kept which on some sites it isn't, and dont enjoy being on site with some of the fools I have met over the last year or so.

Tony

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29/11/2010 at 9:06pm
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I have just booked a seasonal pitch in Anglesey for 2011....2 hour drive from home...awning can stay up.....which means due to shift work my wife and kids can use it far more often when i am on nights or working weekends in the holidays without having to tow it whenever she wanted a break and i couldnt get there



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