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01/6/2011 at 8:16pm
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Just returned from 5 nights in Clumber Park cc site, when we checked in we was strongly advised to use the bike store for security,accessed only by using the barrier card between the hours of 9am and 7.30 pm ,for the first four nights we locked it securely in the awning to the caravan no problem,we decided yesterday as the awning was dry to take it down, we then put our sons bike locked in the bike store,when we returned we found someone had stolen his dustcaps , bought seperatly for about a tenner green in a shape of a bullet, as he is autistic and loves green, what was more upsetting was these were stolen by someone on the camp as a barrier key is required, so if any one who stopped a clumber on the night of may 31st and your children just happened to find some nice green dustcaps ???????? ,also we was told today that on Friday night a complete roofrack and two bikes were stolen, the roofrack was later found in the woods, after taking the wardens advice and using the bikestore we became a victim. There are signs stating a security company on site, never saw one gaurd in 5 days, also signs stating cameras, where again non evident, come on caravan club sort out security, we will not be returning .


01/6/2011 at 10:13pm
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there is security in the area . we walked off the site one evening in the dark to the x-roads where we can get a mobile signal . we were quizzed by a security guard in a land rover as to what we were up to and later the same night they were on-site and seen locking all the gates from the site into the woods.
they are still easily climbable however.
sorry to hear about your lads dust caps.
never had a problem with theft personally there in 20+ visits


01/6/2011 at 10:30pm
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So sorry to hear about your lads dust caps though I am not sure what the are.

Clumber is a beautiful park, and great for all sorts of activities. Unfortunately parts of it are close to one of Worksops seadier estates and you do have to take precautions.  We also have been questioned by security to check our credentials, so it does happen.

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01/6/2011 at 10:59pm
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Thanks Brian,bev and jon, just venting my anger that a fellow caravanner,club member can steal off another member, they were small and will be replaced Saturday ,just a note to beware and perhaps not so trusting that we in the caravanning and tents have got used to .


02/6/2011 at 11:17am
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Its not exactly 'cast in stone' that it was a CClub member who commited this crime, it could have been someone with enough knowledge of how these security systems work to make their own swipe key or clone one.

In the Building trade the swipe cards to new jobs are often handed out freely to those working on site for them to gain access, but often because those workers move around within a large firm, and onto other sites, they are not collected in by the site owners at the completion of the Job, especially where a building is unoccupied.

Luckily we are honest people, but at one point when my OH was working before he retired, he had a 'master' pass swipe card to an entire hotel chains bedrooms for a couple of months, as he was traveling around and replacing the door fire smoke seals as part of his job.  Yes he was trusted, having worked for the same firm for many decades, and been through some of the most stringent security checks possible due to working on Nuclear plants, but it would have been so easy to have kept a copy for himself, and i suspect that the same could have applied for the people who have had access to the CC site where the crime took place.

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Quote: Originally posted by romany girl on 02/6/2011
Its not exactly 'cast in stone' that it was a CClub member who commited this crime,

Indeed, fancy suggesting that any of the CC's 388,000 members or their families could have been resposible for this mean little theft...


02/6/2011 at 7:44pm
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It's a shame when something like this happens  &especially somewhere you'd normally expect your things to be safe - but really I can't see why anyone would be so certain it was done by someone on the site. 

Barriers with keys are only a deterrent, they're not foolproof & won't stop anyone who really wants to get in & nick or vandalise your stuff.  By that logic people wouldn't need to worry about having their homes burgled as long as they locked their doors !

 



02/6/2011 at 8:23pm
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id expect it to be another youngster staying on site who took the dust caps . there was a spate of it round us a few years ago when chrome "dusties" were popular . kids would always steal them unless they were nipped up tight with  a spanner. a kid will have spotted them on the bike and thought "im having those if nobodys about"

 



02/6/2011 at 8:33pm
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I'm sorry but for someone to go and fake a swipe card to a door that is otherwise securely locked is a a bit major on a caravan club site, the bikes themselves are locked again once inside by your own lock,just a warning if its not screwed to the bike remove it ie water bottles,pumps,fancy dustcaps.As for house break ins if there is no signs of forced entry the blame can be put on the key holders


02/6/2011 at 10:00pm
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I deal with this kind of stuff at work, generally cards numbers on the strips are encrypted, I've never heard of a system that isn't  You can download code breakers etc off the net but would anyone go to this level to nick some dust caps etc.  Almost certainly not.  You would also need an encoder, primed for the encryption, generally around £600, and often you need to be in ownership of a system run by the vendor to purchace an encoder.  Pretty sure if someone went in with a card to steal, it would have been an original.

I know it leaves a nasty taste in the mouth when you get somethin nicked, but quite often it's those around you who did it.

To date, I've only had two thefts, one spare wheel left under the van while at Devon Cliffs.  And the second recently at Easter from Blue Anchor, I had a tool box full of beach fishing bits and pieces taken.  luckilly I had removed about 30 weights and three reels, two Pens and a fast retrieval in order to lighten the load for the walk to the water.  But none the less I was spitting feathers.  There were a few fishermen in the park, so the thief was probably a fisherman and a camper, so double suprise.

You have to feel sorry for the sad sad idiots who get off an pinching other peoples kit, I mean, really, they should get a life.  Pathetic cockroaches.

Tony B



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02/6/2011 at 11:52pm
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Well said Tony ,yes its not what was stolen but the circumstances.


03/6/2011 at 11:28am
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Blimey, they still have problems at Clumber Park?  This has now been a problem for at least 10 years as far as I can remember.

I went about 10yrs ago and was immediately put off by the signs telling you to close your caravan and awning curtains because of the high rate of thefts.

Apparently travellers are known to come through the woods and take bikes etc and leave back through the woods.

I spoke to the then warden and he said it was a real problem that they were having. That must be 10yrs ago now. I'm surprised it's still happening.

It's a real shame. One of the things about caravanning for us has always been how safe sites are. That includes thefts etc..

 

Kev.



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The area look lovely but tbh this has been putting us off going for a long time ,shame :(


03/6/2011 at 6:45pm
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Hi all, we have been there 6 times(before the lock up for bikes etc) with our bikes. No problems, you just need be careful & keep everything locked up. Its a wonderful site, the park is great for walking & for bikes. Do not let the thieves put you off.

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11/7/2011 at 9:35pm
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We also strongly advised to use the bike shed for security, as no-one told us about the thieves at Clumber park.

We had brought our four bikes with us to clumber park caravan site, by the time we had got settled onto our pitch, the bike shed was closed and locked.  We never thought it was a problem, due to signs saying CCTV on site (which later we found was untrue).  The next morning, one of our bikes had been stolen, even though we padlocked the four bikes together, the thieves just cut through the lock.  Two more families lost bikes on that night.

This campsite has still got a major problem with thieves (mainly bikes) and it is a regularly occurrence. My complaint is no-one told us and the wardens never stressed the importance to lock the bikes away in the shed (I spoke to two).   Also, the opening and closing times of the bike shed are to suit the wardens and not the visitors (7.30pm locking of the shed and 9am opening of the shed).  If we got to the shed in time, it would not have fit our bikes in as it only stores fifty bikes, personally I think this unacceptable when the site has 180 pitches.

If you are planning to go Clumber Park site, DO NOT take your bikes.  If you do please please use the bike shed and a D-lock, as my ten old is very upset about losing his bike.  The site is an excellent site but has a problem with bike thieves.

 



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11/7/2011 at 9:48pm
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Clumber is a beautiful park, and great for all sorts of activities. Unfortunately parts of it are close to one of Worksops seadier estates and you do have to take precautions. We also have been questioned by security to check our credentials, so it does happen




seadier area where ya mean pls xx



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