Just got back from a 10 days break at Keswick C&CC site had a great time. Weather was good for area, pitch was £22 per night. Views were overwhelming. On my many walks with wife and greyhound we passed motorhomes parked in side roads. At first I didnt notice at first but after a few days I realised that these motorhomes hadn't moved and if they did I spotted them in other out of way places surely this is against the law. If not can everyone do this or do you need special permission.
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Hmmmmmmmmm It's kinda you park up you take your chance. Now I do not know the law but believe it's wrong in all of the UK except Scotland.
I'm sure someone will be along shortly to correct me but motor homes are regulars in our village car park and no one bothers and we are within the national park
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Quote: Originally posted by Rallye550 on 09/8/2011
Hmmmmmmmmm It's kinda you park up you take your chance. Now I do not know the law but believe it's wrong in all of the UK except Scotland. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to correct me but motor homes are regulars in our village car park and no one bothers and we are within the national park
They are banned in all England for parking unless it actually says so. These cheap skates not only ruin the sides of the verges by staying on them but give nothing to help the community keep going by using a campsite.Scotland is the only place and even then in some places they are stopping them as once again they are leaving a whole pile of rubbish,emptying their toilet into the lochs, and the erosion on the banks are getting torn to bits.With all the rain they have been having of late they car causing a hell of a mess. Once more the Scots ain that area are not getting any benefit form thie lack od spending yet still be expected to fork out in their rates to mend the side verges so it stoops going too far and loses land. But if you do camp in Scotland dso ask first as it is only respectful & polite. Just by doing so it lets the Scots know that a lot of us do respect their land and not like the others.
Well said Beanpark. I've just finished a 16 day tour round our beautiful Scotland (using proper paid for sites) and OMG I saw the disgusting filthy mess on out Bonnie Banks that wild campers left. Shame on them they are spoiling it for us (as in the responsible tourers) People talk about travellers and the damage they do to our beautiful country well I have witnessed the destruction and mess that wild campers are doing. Shame on them !!! I do hope the law is changed and Scotland no longer tolerats wild camping. A pure shame but we need to protect our countryside
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Wild camping as an ideal way to visit really out of the way places is a good idea , but , if a person can afford the means to do it in a vehicle and it is legal in the area , surely they can afford the bin bags too for rubbish storage until a legal dump point can be used ? Toilet cassette dumping on the land and in waterways is disgusting and surely caravan/motorhome wild campers can get three days out of one and find a public toilet at the very least every three days to empty it into a flush loo ? What you take into an area that becomes waste must be taken out or you just contribute to ruining the scene that you profess to love visiting . Or are the guilty ones just well heeled vandals ? If any wild campers are reading this thread , what do you do about your waste ?
We recently toured the Outer Herbrides in a motorhome. From Barra in the south right the way up to Lewis. We wild camped some of the time and used campsites as well. You can check online regarding wild camping and where it is allowed and also the location of CDPs on the islands, or if you prefer you can phone the Tourist Boards for different areas and they will supply you with a leaflet with all the information you need. These are beautiful unspoilt islands and to willfully dump rubbish and toilet waste is just lazy and disrespectful. All it needs is a bit of research and organisation of your holiday area which is surely all part of the holiday experience.
I wouldn't feel safe on the side of the road in a motorhome. It's a little different wild caming somewhere in the middle of nowhere, your not likely to get anyone passing by.
Quote: Originally posted by Rallye550 on 10/8/2011Well said Beanpark. I've just finished a 16 day tour round our beautiful Scotland (using proper paid for sites) and OMG I saw the disgusting filthy mess on out Bonnie Banks that wild campers left. Shame on them they are spoiling it for us (as in the responsible tourers) People talk about travellers and the damage they do to our beautiful country well I have witnessed the destruction and mess that wild campers are doing. Shame on them !!! I do hope the law is changed and Scotland no longer tolerats wild camping. A pure shame but we need to protect our countryside
You seriously risk tarring a lot of people with one brush there. How would you like caravanners all being referred to as thieving gypsies, just because a small number of caravans happen to be gypsies and some gypsies just happen to be theives? My mother comes from London, does that automatically make her a looting rioter?
In Spain, people used to park up in the Port areas and empty their loos in the sea. Yuk. It was said that it was mostly the germans who did this, but I bet it was widespread among all nationalities too.
The thing was, that many camp sites weren't open during the winter months, and at Easter time, you always kept well clear of the Spanish campsites as the noise and partying went on till 4 in the morning.
We found some great sites which were open, but then again, there were those who preferred to camp on the promenades and streets and just wander into the site to use the facilities for free.
It was allowed to park in the street, so long as you didn't put a step outside, or hand washing out of the window. That way, nobody knew whether you were sleeping in the van or just parked up for the night.
I wildcamp all the time , and have never seen toilet waste been dumped , I think some people mistakenly believe the grey tank being emptied as being toilet waste , I wouldn't dream of emptying my toilet waste anywhere other than the proper place for it , namely some sort of access to proper sewage facilities ,,
As for actual wildcamping , it's only illegal if there is a clearly visible sign up stating no overnight sleeping or cooking in vans allowed , i , and lots of other like minded , responsible , taxpaying road users hate the idea of staying on noisy overcrowded and regimented sites ,, one persons ideal is anothers nightmare ,,
One of the hardest parts of wildcamping is sourcing fresh water to fill the tanks , disposing of toilet waste is an easy job as there are many public toilets around , unfortunately very few of them have a usable fresh water source , we usually find someone willing to sell us the water ,,
Quote: Originally posted by DaveCoaches on 10/8/2011
Quote: Originally posted by Rallye550 on 10/8/2011
Well said Beanpark. I've just finished a 16 day tour round our beautiful Scotland (using proper paid for sites) and OMG I saw the disgusting filthy mess on out Bonnie Banks that wild campers left. Shame on them they are spoiling it for us (as in the responsible tourers) People talk about travellers and the damage they do to our beautiful country well I have witnessed the destruction and mess that wild campers are doing. Shame on them !!! I do hope the law is changed and Scotland no longer tolerats wild camping. A pure shame but we need to protect our countryside
You seriously risk tarring a lot of people with one brush there. How would you like caravanners all being referred to as thriving gypsies, just because a small number of caravans happen to by gypsies and some gypsies just happen to be theives? My mother comes from London, does that automatically make her a looting rioter?
I am not a caravaner you can see what unit we have.
No I am not tarring everyone with the same brush, I have personally seen tip not grey dirty water out but elsan and/or whatever else they have in there.
If a person feels guilty when reading it maybe it will help to change them for the better and respect others homes,property of all sorts no matter what it is or where.. It is not their personal things.
But if a person wild camps, as we used to ourselves in a VW small camper and loved the freedom. BUT we respected it all & everyone. I have never felt any guilt in where we have camped for I was always taught from 18 months old and for the last 66 years now , TAKE your rubbish with you..Never deliberately disrespect others homes or property. ASK first
.If we can take ours home or to put it where it should be so can they, without any excuses being given to any.
There are a lot of wild campers who would never go out of their way to destroy anything and most of the time you hardly know they have been there as they check & clear away after themselves. But there is a lot of people nowadays that class it as their God given right to dump anywhere anytime. It is not.
So it should only be the guilty that when they read it feel that way. But I am not tarring them as they could be one of those very ones that you would not know had been thee unless you saw them. If your one of them like Stevie who wild camps, your a proper camper so it does not apply to you. But a hell of a lot of others it does.
So called civil liberties has no place in destruction of natural beauty or others homes. They have gone too far.This is meant to all those that think it is their right to do all they like, we are already seeing a lot of them already doing what they think is their God given right In london,Birmingham, Liverpool.etc. Civil Liberties gone crazy.
The buck stops with us individually not to do it ourselves. So if anyone is reading this and says I have done what is written and still are shame on you. Please stop before you really are tarred with the same brush, after the damage is done give it a chance to recover but using chemicals it may not do so .
Your are not allowed to flush your toilet down the main sewers it is for excess rain water not dollops of poop & paper. There are men down there who have to work they do not need you poop. so use the right place which caters for that kind of sewage. If you get caught as it can happen to any & everyone me included try you best to bury in a hole and cover. It will naturally breakdown and cause no harm. But not into rivers,lochs,tarns.
Quote: Originally posted by steveiem on 10/8/2011
Nice one Davecoaches , well said ,,
Stevie I would of thought you would of known what I was getting at but obviously you do not.Maybe you will read what I answered and understand what I was getting at as I knew you wild camped ,I had read it before.So have we a few years ago know.
Quote: Originally posted by DaveCoaches on 10/8/2011
Quote: Originally posted by Rallye550 on 10/8/2011
Well said Beanpark. I've just finished a 16 day tour round our beautiful Scotland (using proper paid for sites) and OMG I saw the disgusting filthy mess on out Bonnie Banks that wild campers left. Shame on them they are spoiling it for us (as in the responsible tourers) People talk about travellers and the damage they do to our beautiful country well I have witnessed the destruction and mess that wild campers are doing. Shame on them !!! I do hope the law is changed and Scotland no longer tolerats wild camping. A pure shame but we need to protect our countryside
You seriously risk tarring a lot of people with one brush there. How would you like caravanners all being referred to as thriving gypsies, just because a small number of caravans happen to by gypsies and some gypsies just happen to be theives? My mother comes from London, does that automatically make her a looting rioter?
Just a small bit. We dont live that far from where its happening, We have sisters who are now homeless by being burnt out. They are Londoners. So no not automatically called looters they are the suffers. You would hardly loot,burn your own homes. they are afraid because of the scum & their civil liberties ideas, not caring only for what they nick,burn, kill
While the idea of emptying toilet waste randomly around the country side is not something I am condoning, I cannot help wondering where the wildlife empty their toilet cassettes in these regions.
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