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06/11/2011 at 8:16pm
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just back from Ferry Meadows and my forearms have just stopped aching from driving rock pegs into the hard standing!!

Lots of vans there without the awning up; and having had to get 'medieval' with the hammer to get our few pegs into the ground I can see why!

Every time I swear that it's the last time and it'll be grass pitches from now on.

Anyone got tips on how to make this task a little less stressful?

 



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I always use a small lump hammer. It gets the rock pegs in most hardstanding but if the ground is really hard, it can still be a little difficult. Lump hammer and good rock pegs is the best bet (IMHO). Pull pegs out with a claw hammer.

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06/11/2011 at 8:25pm
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Quote: Originally posted by D S B on 06/11/2011
I always use a small lump hammer. It gets the rock pegs in most hardstanding but if the ground is really hard, it can still be a little difficult. Lump hammer and good rock pegs is the best bet (IMHO). Pull pegs out with a claw hammer.

we used a very large claw hammer to get them in and definately needed it to get the little buggers out!

might invest in a lump hammer though.



06/11/2011 at 8:30pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Chewie on 06/11/2011
Quote: Originally posted by D S B on 06/11/2011

I always use a small lump hammer. It gets the rock pegs in most hardstanding but if the ground is really hard, it can still be a little difficult. Lump hammer and good rock pegs is the best bet (IMHO). Pull pegs out with a claw hammer.


we used a very large claw hammer to get them in and definately needed it to get the little buggers out!

might invest in a lump hammer though.




I use the claw hammer as a back up - if the wife helps with pegging and we have two hammers on the go.


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06/11/2011 at 8:32pm
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The guy who stopped to laugh at our efforts said he used a 4lb lump hammer and had broken 3 rock pegs!!!! 


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On two occasions Ive resorted to screw pegs on an electric drill. On one site, which will remain nameless but is in Pembrokshire, a mains drill set on hammer couldnt get a drill bit into the ground. No Im not joking, it really was that hard, underneith a hard layer of gravel was solid rock which took the edge off my masonry drills.

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06/11/2011 at 8:35pm
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Quote: Originally posted by rabbin8 on 06/11/2011
On two occasions Ive resorted to screw pegs on an electric drill. On one site, which will remain nameless but is in Pembrokshire, a mains drill set on hammer couldnt get a drill bit into the ground. No Im not joking, it really was that hard, underneith a hard layer of gravel was solid rock which took the edge off my masonry drills.
Why do they do it???? they do realise we have awnings?


06/11/2011 at 8:50pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Chewie on 06/11/2011
Quote: Originally posted by rabbin8 on 06/11/2011
On two occasions Ive resorted to screw pegs on an electric drill. On one site, which will remain nameless but is in Pembrokshire, a mains drill set on hammer couldnt get a drill bit into the ground. No Im not joking, it really was that hard, underneith a hard layer of gravel was solid rock which took the edge off my masonry drills.
Why do they do it???? they do realise we have awnings?

Yes they know we have awnings, plus they charge more for a hardstanding, The wardens on the site Ive mentioned didnt give a toss, In fact they came round to see how I was getting on with my drilling. W*****s.

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06/11/2011 at 8:57pm
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Quote: Originally posted by rabbin8 on 06/11/2011
Quote: Originally posted by Chewie on 06/11/2011
Quote: Originally posted by rabbin8 on 06/11/2011
On two occasions Ive resorted to screw pegs on an electric drill. On one site, which will remain nameless but is in Pembrokshire, a mains drill set on hammer couldnt get a drill bit into the ground. No Im not joking, it really was that hard, underneith a hard layer of gravel was solid rock which took the edge off my masonry drills.
Why do they do it???? they do realise we have awnings?

Yes they know we have awnings, plus they charge more for a hardstanding, The wardens on the site Ive mentioned didnt give a toss, In fact they came round to see how I was getting on with my drilling. W*****s.
Fire up the A-Team music, drag out the pnumatic drill and then they'll come round to see what's happening!!


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Quote: Originally posted by Chewie on 06/11/2011
Quote: Originally posted by rabbin8 on 06/11/2011
Quote: Originally posted by Chewie on 06/11/2011
Quote: Originally posted by rabbin8 on 06/11/2011
On two occasions Ive resorted to screw pegs on an electric drill. On one site, which will remain nameless but is in Pembrokshire, a mains drill set on hammer couldnt get a drill bit into the ground. No Im not joking, it really was that hard, underneith a hard layer of gravel was solid rock which took the edge off my masonry drills.
Why do they do it???? they do realise we have awnings?

Yes they know we have awnings, plus they charge more for a hardstanding, The wardens on the site Ive mentioned didnt give a toss, In fact they came round to see how I was getting on with my drilling. W*****s.
Fire up the A-Team music, drag out the pnumatic drill and then they'll come round to see what's happening!!

Or, how about one of those nail guns that work off a type of small shotgun cartridge. I wonder if Screwfix do them?

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You may find on occasions that even on grass pitches it can take a hefty lump hammer to drive them home. I have been on a few pitches which seem to be about 2" of topsoil and then the rest is compacted hardcore or shale. Fortunately I have not come across concrete or solid rock yet but a few large rocks sometimes means having to make several attempts to find somewhere the peg will go in, and then the guyline isn't where you would prefer it to be 


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Some of the pitches at Warwick racecourse CC site do have a grass surface, BUT, under  the thin sprinkling of topsoil necesary to keep the grass alive are solid lumps of concrete where some outbuildings previously stood before the CC park was created.

Quite a few of the CC sites are built into disused quaries, West Ayton is a prime example, and although we love this site we never even try to erect our awning due to the solid rock strata undernieth the shallow scattering of pea gravel.

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06/11/2011 at 11:29pm
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Quote: Originally posted by rabbin8 on 06/11/2011
Quote: ]Yes they know we have awnings, plus they charge more for a hardstanding, The wardens on the site Ive mentioned didnt give a toss, In fact they came round to see how I was getting on with my drilling. W*****s.



CC charge the same whether hard standing or grass.


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Quote: Originally posted by Chewie on 06/11/2011
The guy who stopped to laugh at our efforts said he used a 4lb lump hammer and had broken 3 rock pegs!!!! 

And did he offer to loan it too you?

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5lb lump hammer and a single minded determination normally works. I'm sure I've shattered dozens of rocks over the years

Its a difficult situation for site owners as they need the hard standing pitches to be firm enough to avoid deep ruts forming.

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We have been using a lump hammer for some time, but lately on CC hardstanding it has become just about impossible to drive in a rock peg without it bending.
We have tried grass pitches at some sites and it can be just as difficult due to the soil compacting over time plus whatever was there before it became a CC site.
Rock pegs are not cheap to replace. Even using screw pegs with an electric drill is fast becoming a joke and that is with drilling a pilot hole first if you can.
I can feel another letter to the CC coming up as up to now I just assumed it was us!



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