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13/2/2012 at 9:07pm
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Yes you can use bathroom scales....if they have gone off balance...Or.........rather than use a spanner to the correct guage to attach the pig tail to the gas cylindar we can use our fingers and hope its tight enough not to leak......or rather than use a torque wrench to correctly tighten wheel nuts we can use an ordinary wrench and a good kick..........or rather than use a screw driver we can use a thumb nail..........Wonder why, when the tool for the job, to a BS, is overlooked in favour of a bit of a heat robinson affair .

Why take bathroom scales on holiday?

Anyway...apart from what Millenco say about 1000 uses before it needs calibrating, lets assume 100 uses. Test the nose weight when we leave and then again on our homeward journey. That's two uses and then if we have ten trips a year that's 20 goes, so it would last five years. That's about 50p a trip. Mmmm rather use the bathroom scales than spend that amount of money......

What was the question? Ah yes...nothing to do with bathroom scales....

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What you are failing to take on board Phil is that noseweight does not have to be that accurate. Once you have the noseweight correct, continue to load caravan in the same way & it will stay much the same, you don't have to check it every time you hitch up or even every trip.

If you want advice on how to do up wheel nuts or attach gas pipes then start another thread, this one is about noseweight gauges.


13/2/2012 at 11:14pm
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Absolutely right Tentz. On reflection I think that you must be right. Once the nose weight is correct continue to load up as that will never affect noseweight, no matter where you place the load. Never load the van first and then check the noseweight, as recommended by all of the professional organisation.  Then of course when you come home and the gas has been used to lighten the front end by, say,  4Kg and all the tins of food have been eaten and the cans emptied, so you don't bring them home, that will not affect the weight, so no need to check it again.

No matter how many times we get a thead about noseweight guages there will always be the two or maybe three who oppose their use and we get the

1. there is no BS for noseweight guages, or

2. If there is a BS it doesn't work

I am sure they must be right. Always better to pay £25 for bathroom scales and a stick of wood than £25 for a guage to a BS.

Phil

As for "If you want advice on how to do up wheel nuts or attach gas pipes then start another thread, this one is about noseweight gauges." The point is about using the right tool for the job

 



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You are just splitting hairs, Phil. This thread now contains all the information anybody will ever need to know about checking noseweight. Any intelligent person will understand it & can act accordingly.


14/2/2012 at 11:11am
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I contacted eldiss to see what the nose weight of the 2011 supersirocco is, the manual says 100 kg max, just received an email back from them saying it's a miss print & it's 150 kg for that caravan.

Some miss print that!!!!


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Quote: Originally posted by leebo on 14/2/2012I contacted eldiss to see what the nose weight of the 2011 supersirocco is, the manual says 100 kg max, just received an email back from them saying it's a miss print & it's 150 kg for that caravan.

Some miss print that!!!!
I think a noseweight of 150kg would be excessive even with a lot of 4 x 4s. best to stick to 100kgs.
BTW on the ALKO website if you check the weights for the coupling link for the same type, i.e. AKS 3004 there is a misprint. One part in the manual states 100kg and later on in the manual it states 150kg for the same item.
We use a Reich towbar load control and find it very accurate, easy to read and easy to use. See here


14/2/2012 at 1:50pm
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Phil.

Well said!!



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What about that jockey wheel with built in gauge???

I quite liked the look of that, & I don't even use a noseweight gauge! (well, not any more. I used one a couple of times to give me a vague idea, but my outfit's very well matched, I can just about understand people with marginal outfits wanting to keep checking, so I am definitely not advising anybody to NOT use one, OK?)

So, what about it then? Any good???

http://www.ukcampsite.co.uk/redirect.asp?redir=http://www.towsure.com/product/Jockey_Wheel_with_Integral_Nose_Weight_Guide

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15/2/2012 at 7:45am
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We have a built in guage on our van.....that's why I bought a proper one!!!. I can only speak for the Elddis built in one....I think it's there more for an aspiration of what maybe about right...ish. The variation on readings, well, the proper guage can read 75Kg whereas the built in one can be down as low as 45Kg! It seems to stick!!!

On the plus side though it does help the Jocket wheel bounce up and down over bumps on site when moving the van on the motor mover. That is a plus for the wheel as it does not drag across the ground

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