Just new to caravanning and want a good porch awning for beginning of season for our Bailey Ranger 620, looking at Isabella and found that you can use adapt a full awning to make part awning. Has anyone done this and was it easy and can you do this with other makes
Hi, my understanding is you get a small full awning. You slide the awning in the channel as you would with your FULL size awning. Obviously it will be SHORT so you cut the awning cord so that awning can leave the caravan cord channel and the side will reach the floor.
You need a figure of 8 strip (see auction sites) this goes on the awning cord and on the other side of the fig. of 8 you put a foam filled filler (see auction sites)and this protects the awning from damaging the caravan.
Hope you can make sense of this
Quote: Originally posted by gmoore on 30/12/2012Hi
looking at Isabella and found that you can use adapt a full awning to make part awning. Has anyone done this and was it easy and can you do this with other makes
thanks
I have not done it personally but know those that have with Isabella awnings, with excellent results. I have done the bead nicking as that was the way you had to initially adapt their Combi models to suit your van. It is very easy to do but just a little frightening particularly with a brand new awning. The requirement is to release the awning from the rail on one or both sides so it can reach to the ground. The smallest nick in the beading facilitates this, you then feed the awning into the rail at that nick. The old Combis fitted the rail at one side of the van and left it between the door and a window, but there is no reason why this leaving the rail cant be done on both sides. Isabella sell parts so the released beads can be held on padded poles firmly against the van sides.
Working out if an awning could be used requires you to measure the drop from the rail to the ground, typically 240 to 250 cm. If doing a porch arrangement, then take two of those drops off the awnings "A" size to find the width it will be and if that is suitable for your case. Eg: if your van drops were both 250 and you had a 750 awning the width at the roof of the resulting porch would be 250 cm. Similar cals can be done if using it as a "combi" arrangement.
I found "nicking" the bead could be done without cutting it as is the normal method but by fracturing the beads inner plastic cord, leaving the fabric intact so not prone to fray. I achieved this with squeezing the bead tightly with round nose pliers and flexing the bead about the squeezed bit till the core finally fractured. A much better solution to cutting.
I see no reason why other brands cant be so modified but only know that Isabella sell the pads etc and support the mod as a legitimate technique.
Why not just get a porch awning that fits correctly without faffing around? Just a thought
Phil
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Do you mean the bradcot.
They have an awning that you can extend by using extra panels or for a smaller porch leave them out .
http://www.bradcot-awnings.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/5e06319eda06f020e43594a9c230972d/f/i/file_15_1.jpg
I don't know if this link will work I'm not very good at this .
If not look at porches on their web site.
Quote: Originally posted by cwdc56768 on 31/12/2012
Why not just get a porch awning that fits correctly without faffing around? Just a thought
Phil
If you already have, or access to, a cheap quality awning that is suitable why not adapt it? Its a few minutes work and the added cost of two padded poles, £70-ish, to end up with a porch that otherwise would cost £800 plus; reason enough for me.
Quote: Originally posted by madasaman on 30/12/2012
Quote: Originally posted by jim oldham on 30/12/2012
Quote: Originally posted by madasaman on 30/12/2012Never heard of that, is this a new awning type?
No; it is just a modification of a full awning, which is smaller than the new caravan size.
Isabella call them a combi awning
http://www.isabella.net/uk/support/adviceinstructions/fitting.html
NR awnings call them a 3/4 awning
http://www.nrawnings.co.uk/products/three-quarter-awning.html
Seems a very sensible idea.
Jim.
But thats not what the OP said,
looking at Isabella and found that you can use adapt a full awning to make part awning.
It was.
Just follow the links I posted before you jump in.
NR do sell them ready made, but any SH awning can easily be adapted
We have a bradcot full awning and we also have recently purchased the bradcot 'patio' awning, which is a porch awning we use the same set of poles just leaving the unsed ones, now we leave the poles in the 'van and just pack the relevant awning fabric. we have used it a couple of times and it's really handy for the short stay! it is the same colour as our main awning and basically it's a mini version, we can even zip out one side to add the extention if needed (not sure why you would? if you needed an extention you would surely just take the big one!).
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Quote: Originally posted by jim oldham on 01/1/2013
Quote: Originally posted by madasaman on 30/12/2012
Quote: Originally posted by jim oldham on 30/12/2012
Quote: Originally posted by madasaman on 30/12/2012Never heard of that, is this a new awning type?
No; it is just a modification of a full awning, which is smaller than the new caravan size.Isabella call them a combi awninghttp://www.isabella.net/uk/support/adviceinstructions/fitting.html
NR awnings call them a 3/4 awning
http://www.nrawnings.co.uk/products/three-quarter-awning.html
Seems a very sensible idea.
Jim.
But thats not what the OP said,
looking at Isabella and found that you can use adapt a full awning to make part awning.
It was.
Just follow the links I posted before you jump in.
NR do sell them ready made, but any SH awning can easily be adapted
Jim.
Oooo I stand corrected!!!! but no way would I cut my Isabella awning bead. If they think it's OK why don't they build a few breaks into the beading at manufacture.
Post last edited on 02/01/2013 10:29:48
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The idea is that you buy a good quality SH awning, which is the correct A measurement for a Porch awning for you caravan. See Isabella's, or NR's instructions.
Very carefully measure to where the inside beading should be broken. I haven't done this myself, but I'd be wary of cutting all the way through the bead covering.
You should get a top quality porch awning, which is secured to one side of the caravan, and held by the Isabella "spare" leg, for a fraction of the cost of a Magnum.
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