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13/1/2013 at 7:36pm
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Hi.we have recieved our annual bill for our caravan and it seems that we dont have to pay VAT now , why is this?. Thats the good news, the bad news is our fee have risen from £365inc VAT - £350 ex VAT.
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13/1/2013 at 8:00pm
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Sorry but that doesn't make sense - have you typed your figures the wrong way round?

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13/1/2013 at 8:01pm
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Perhaps the company is no longer VAT registered? I think that registration depends on turnover.


13/1/2013 at 8:13pm
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If the turnover of the company is below the VAT threshold then they don't have to be VAT registered. I think the threshold is currently £77,000

If they are below the threshold then they can be VAT registered if they want, but it's up to them.

It doesn't really make any difference to members of the public, as they won't be claiming the vat back anyway.



13/1/2013 at 8:37pm
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Is invoice off same company? Maybe new company, land leased to them. Then they are not vat registered so dont charge, but increase charge to make more money. Suprising what you can do when you sit down with your accountants. Sorry its my suspicious nature....


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13/1/2013 at 8:51pm
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Hi. the first figure is with VAT second is without so even though the figure seems to be cheaper to us which it is it is also a big increase on last year.


13/1/2013 at 9:02pm
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Just because a company is no longer VAT registered it doesn't mean that their prices will all drop by 20%! There are many other factors to take into consideration when deciding to be vat registered or not.

The end result is your fees have gone down this year and I'm sure not many people on here will be able to say that. it sounds like they have decided to de-register for VAT and your fees have gone down. Unless you are vat registered and were planning on claiming the VAT back somehow I cant really see what the problem is.






13/1/2013 at 9:28pm
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I presume you mean that if the VAT was taken off last year's £365 the basic figure would have been less than this year's £350? In which case you're right, there has been an increase, but if you look at it the other way round and the company were still charging VAT with an increase on the basic figure you would now have to pay more than £365. As it is, you're paying less than last year so what's the problem? Never look a gift horse in the mouth



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13/1/2013 at 9:50pm
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The reason I ask about a " new company " now owning/ running storage is that would the new company be cassoa registered for insurance purposes. I know it may seem a bit daft but the old adage of, you are insured till you claim springs to mind. If its same company but no longer vat registered then all will be well and as other people have said your storage fees have gone down.


13/1/2013 at 9:55pm
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Thanks for the replies,Just out of interest how much does everyone else pay?


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13/1/2013 at 10:02pm
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I have just taken mine off storage, cassoa gold and just over £400 per year.


13/1/2013 at 10:08pm
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Cassoa gold site, £320 per year inc VAT

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14/1/2013 at 8:35am
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If the storage provider is no longer vat registered they will no longer be able to recover vat input i.e.
the vat charged to them by their suppliers. Their cost will have gone up if they have to absorb that vat so they have to charge more on the base price.

I doubt they have a lot of VAT input on the storage site but probably have other business interests.

Between £350 - 450 appears about the norm for a Cassoa site. A friend charges £300 for a non registered site in Wiltshire.


14/1/2013 at 9:45am
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Our Cassoa storage reduced our yearly payment last year to £220.  It was reduced as the owners are now not eligable to pay VAT.  They re-organised the storage site to incoporate a couple of large fenced off area's for some horses to use and therefore reduced the amount of caravans they were able to get on and this made them below the VAT threshold so to their customers no Vat payable and no rise in the cost  17

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14/1/2013 at 10:39am
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our cossa gold storage yard has 2 tariffs depending on size of your unit.

ours unfortunately falls into the larger tariff, £365 pa all in, so i guess a £1 a day ain't a lot to pay for secure storage with cctv covarage



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Mine has gone from £432 to £504 from this January. And apparently I'm on their cheapest level as my caravan is small.



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