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15/3/2013 at 7:34pm
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we have just bought a used caravan and got it sited when i connected the mains hook up lead the switches were tripping the lights are on but there is no power the appliances we are novices so please can anyone advise.


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Switch everything off including the main RCD and MCB unplug anything you can then try to close the RCD first then the MCB's then switch on any fixed appliances fridge,water heater etc one at a time till you find which one is tripping the main switches,main suspect would be the water heater.

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15/3/2013 at 8:08pm
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Could be the water heater or the fridge element that's faulty on EHU.

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15/3/2013 at 8:23pm
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thanks guys the lights come on but i dont know if thats from the power in the battery i just assumed once u plugged in u were connected to the mains and everything would work off that like i said we knew to this.


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The lights work from the 12v (battery)The sockets where you plug in the likes of a kettle are 240v.

You may have a rocker switch on the control panel this should say...car..van..battery i think.This should be set to VAN when on the electrics as, it will work the battery charger/transformer and charge the battery.If set to battery all things that work on 12v will work but not the sockets also the battery wont get charged.

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15/3/2013 at 9:14pm
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hi jeff thanks for the reply yes there is such switch so do i set switch to off position and then will it be totally off the mains?

 



15/3/2013 at 9:33pm
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are you on a site or are you plugged in at home.

the switches that are tripping, are they tripping in the house or in the van?

first start with just the hookup lead plugged in at the supply, but not at the van.

if tht stays on, do as saxo says, unplug everything 240v in the van switch off the water heater, fridge etc, switch off the incomming switch to the van.

then plug back in the huckup lead, and work your way through, slowly switching, individual circuits on, untill the faulty circuit trips the breaker,

please note though, that if the fault is on the neutral leg, then the switch will trip,when rcd is switched on.

try the above then get back to us,

but tell us the make and model and year of the van. to help us

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15/3/2013 at 9:57pm
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hi stu the caravan is on a site its a vantage 510 4 berth 1994 on the caravan next to where i plug the lead in theres 2 switches i dont know what these are but the 1 on the left is ok but when i flick the 1 on the right it trips the switch on my van and the 1 on the post at the sight thanks for your reply i hope u can understand and maybe give me some idea as of what to try next.


15/3/2013 at 10:49pm
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Hi Al,On mine the switch says battery.Setting the switch to this will take power from the battery and work the lights...the battery wont charge back up till the switch is set to VaN.

Im wondering if your drawing too much power from the mains box outside your van.The box on my site can take up to 10amps...this means drawing of more than 10amps will make it trip.Switch is set to VAN..

Have you got a load of electrical things going like the telly kettle,heating etc all at the one time ? If so this will make it trip.

Check the ehu cable also,might be a wire touching or loose.

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Does the one that trips have a button marked test?If so then it is the RCD that is tripping which means that you have an earth leakage fault on on an appliance and you need to isolate the faulty item by doing what I posted earlier.

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You need to identify which trip is operating, the switch with a button marked test is an RCD the one without a test button is an MCB.

For an MCB to trip instantaneously it would need to be seriously overloaded a 10 Amp MCB will carry 20 Amps for nearly 2 mins so if it is tripping instantaneously you would probably have a short circuit on the wiring in the van.

I doubt that it is the MCB,it is more likely to be the RCD which will trip at a very low earth fault current in milliseconds but you need to determine which one it is and then isolate the faulty item by switching as stated previously.

Saxo1



16/3/2013 at 7:36pm
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thanks for the replies guys the problem turned out to be the mains on site we moved pitch and we got power the problem now is my cascade 2 water heater its been on all day and no hot water theres 3 lights on the box green red and yellow now the green and red are on all the time im trying to use this with electics not gas any advice thanks.


16/3/2013 at 8:17pm
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are you sure it has an electric heater ,the early ones were gas only

red light means no gas

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16/3/2013 at 8:22pm
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4. THE

LIGHTS INDICATE

a. GREEN. The heater is working satisfactorily.

b. GREEN AND YELLOW. The DC voltage is below the 10.5 volts that are required to operate the heater. Recharge the battery.

c. GREEN and RED. The heater has failed to ignite or has gone to safety shut down. This is usually due to failure of the gas supply or air in the gas system after fitting a new cylinder.



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16/3/2013 at 8:22pm
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Could be gas only as lights are only for gas settings.

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16/3/2013 at 8:25pm
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carver cascade 2 ge

means gas/electric



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