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19/8/2013 at 2:41pm
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Sorry but i have my next question now previous is solved.

On my car ( Corsa c 1.3 cdti ) I have the standard black 7 pin plug to connect trailer and caravan lights.

I am going to need the grey socket to run the fridge whilst travelling now looking at travling further.

Apart from the grey socket being wired in what will i need to get it working as ive read things about batterys and relays and im confused

I already have a battery wired up to run the interior light when on sight.

Cheers Dale

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19/8/2013 at 2:56pm
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The grey socket is called the 12S which is to run the fridge by 12 volt and the other to charge the leisure battery whilst the caravan is in tow. There is another function which is reversing lights but I doubt whether you have these on your caravan anyway. To make proper use of the fridge you need to pre-cool it first by gas or electric otherwise it will take several hours to get cold on the 12 volt supply.


19/8/2013 at 3:22pm
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The S socket needs a permanently live feed which preferably should be taken directly from the battery with a sufficiently large diameter cable to take the power it will be asked for. this should have an inline fuse before anything else is added. The feed should go to a voltage sensing relay which will provide an always on supply to the caravan electrics (post 1997 van ) and a supply that is only live when the cars engine is running to supply the caravan fridge for any caravan. This last supply is also used to supply a charge to the battery for pre 1997 caravans
A good wiring diagram and description can be found at http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/1022823/additional-12-volt-wiring-in-trailer-caravans-mo.pdf

and the pinouts can be found at http://uk-trailer-parts.co.uk/7-pin-s-type-caravan-wiring

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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

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19/8/2013 at 4:39pm
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Save some money and take a cool box and plug into the EHU when you get there?!

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19/8/2013 at 5:40pm
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errr i understand about your wiring query ,BUT i don't think you will be LEGALLY able to tow a caravan with a 1.3 corsa ,in fact i guess that with the caravan loaded for a holiday it would be potenially lethal .have you worked out your cars kerbweights and the caravans mass in running order weight .

in fact i have checked on this since initial posting ,the manufactures tow limit for your car is 1000kg ,your actual kerb weight is 1103 kg .the probable weight of your van unladen will be somewhere in the region of 750kg (depending on berths) if you take a normal payload i.e gas bottles ,spare wheel,battery,clothing food ,utensils ,and other bits and bobs your probably looking at in excess of 250-300kg be careful

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I really hope your caravan is a teardrop tbh

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19/8/2013 at 6:16pm
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Quote: Originally posted by the black fox on 19/8/2013
errr i understand about your wiring query ,BUT i don't think you will be LEGALLY able to tow a caravan with a 1.3 corsa ,in fact i guess that with the caravan loaded for a holiday it would be potenially lethal .have you worked out your cars kerbweights and the caravans mass in running order weight .

in fact i have checked on this since initial posting ,the manufactures tow limit for your car is 1000kg ,your actual kerb weight is 1103 kg .the probable weight of your van unladen will be somewhere in the region of 750kg (depending on berths) if you take a normal payload i.e gas bottles ,spare wheel,battery,clothing food ,utensils ,and other bits and bobs your probably looking at in excess of 250-300kg be careful

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He should have no problem finding a legal outfit, the choice is restrict but there are many many vans out there that match his requirements.



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For a licence dated 1997 or later you must add together the plated max weight of the caravan and trailer, if the total is 3500 or less you can tow it. You may even tow a caravan with a MAM greater than the cars unladen mass the restriction was removed in 2013

Mondeo Titanium 140 tdci


19/8/2013 at 6:19pm
 Location: Northamptonshire
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Thank for the feed back. We checked all the problems regarding the weights before we even thought about the caravan and towing especialy with are car and even loaded im less than 750kg i no as i took it to a weight bridge last week.
That was one main reason we went for the old van as one same style but newer is over a tone!
She pulls fine and stops no trouble.

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19/8/2013 at 6:21pm
 Location: Hants
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The clues are in the user name and the gallery photos.

(Clean, smart 'van!)

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19/8/2013 at 6:35pm
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certainly the opersite end of the scale for you looking at your pics

And thank you I do keep cleaning it

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19/8/2013 at 6:50pm
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Quote: Originally posted by AceMarauders on 19/8/2013
certainly the opersite end of the scale for you looking at your pics

And thank you I do keep cleaning it



She looks brilliant and is a credit to you!

Sounds like you are having loads of fun too and that's what its all about!



19/8/2013 at 8:11pm
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Quote: Originally posted by janus on 19/8/2013
The S socket needs a permanently live feed which preferably should be taken directly from the battery with a sufficiently large diameter cable to take the power it will be asked for. this should have an inline fuse before anything else is added. The feed should go to a voltage sensing relay which will provide an always on supply to the caravan electrics (post 1997 van ) and a supply that is only live when the cars engine is running to supply the caravan fridge for any caravan. This last supply is also used to supply a charge to the battery for pre 1997 caravans
A good wiring diagram and description can be found at http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/media/1022823/additional-12-volt-wiring-in-trailer-caravans-mo.pdf

and the pinouts can be found at http://uk-trailer-parts.co.uk/7-pin-s-type-caravan-wiring



Also many thanks janus for the links most usefull.
Now to kindly talk to my brother who is the electrics man. He has already rewired the caravan and fitted invertor for me.

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20/8/2013 at 4:01pm
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My caravan had a grey socket (although it needed replacing) but there was neither battery charger or fridge when I bought the van! And only the black one on the car. Knowing how hopeless the 12v is for the fridge, and knowing I could charge the battery either at home or on site, I just bought a charger, and used the fridge as a coolbox (filling with a mixture of frozen stuff and fresh, plus a couple of iceblocks and I've never missed having the grey socket wired into the car.

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20/8/2013 at 4:19pm
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So do you run it on gas when you get to your destination?

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