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PersonJdDerek
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Yesterday whilst travelling along the M27 admiring the amount of Caravans that were on the move we noticed a car and van in the hard shoulder on the opposite side of the road.

As we passed we could see that the Caravan had experienced a blow out, which possibly isn't that rare but what amazed me was the amount of damage it had caused to the Caravan.

As we were on the opposite side clearly it was a little hard to see but all the body work around the wheel arch had simply been shredded removing the trimming and leaving what looked like a large hole into the Caravan.

Is that typical of a blow out whilst towing a van ????

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PersonKenny2105
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I attend lots of caravan blow outs in the summer period I own and run a tyre company where we attend roadside, yes when a tyre blows or rapidly deflates while in transit the out tyre welt seperates from the case and spins around the wheel as it rotates the damage can be insane, but its not always the case depends on the age of the tyre and what has caused the deflation. So remember always check the date of your tyres, over 5years old get them off!


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Yes this is normal if you get a blow out. Fitting tyron brands helps reduce the risk


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tyron bands will not prevent tread separation sorry


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i dont think any off them actually blow out.. they go soft from a normal a puncture the driver dosnt know because unlike a car the puncture isnt noticed..

the tyre gets very very hot the lot then shreds causing massive van damage when it does so..

blow outs dont happen often punctures do.. the end result is the same.. a shredded tyre and damaged van..

people assume blow out and rapid deflation but all it needs is a not noticed normal puncture..

the first thing the driver notices is the racket from the shredded tyre as it flies apart.. by then it too late..

lorry tyres go the same way.. massive over heating caused by running flat and then shredding.. real blow outs may happen but not that often.. the shredding is caused by the tyre over heating and then flying apart..

the whole caravan tyre bow out thing is a myth.. they dont they just get punctures..

trog

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Quote: Originally posted by Kenny2105 on 04/4/2015
So remember always check the date of your tyres, over 5years old get them off!


Sorry if this is a stupid question but unlike cars are caravan tyres dated then ????

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Personbilly
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All tyres are dated, caravan tyres are car or van tyres. For tyres made this century look for a 4 digit number, ie 0710 would date tyre as made in 7th wk of 2010. Explained here


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Thank you Billy....

They say that you learn something everyday and there is mine .....

I never knew tyres were dated.

So 5 years is a safe time for them to be on a Caravan obviously excluding any damage caused by other factors ??

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That seems to be the opinion, yes. Manufacturers don't actually give any recommendation as to the life of a tyre but most tyres are worn out & changed after less than 3yrs. Low mileage caravan tyres obviously last much longer & should be checked for cracked sidewalls & so on. They can also be rotated monthly throughout winter to avoid tyre being stood on one spot if caravan is not being used & covered if they are in direct sunlight for long periods, it all helps.


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i would love to see some real evidence to back up this copy and paste opinion that everyone passes around..

is there any or is it just a copy and paste figure pulled out thin air and all part of the exploding caravan tyre myth..

trog


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A blowout would be a large puncture that released all the air rapidly. It happens but not that often.

Low pressure or a slow puncture that goes unnoticed will have the tyre heating up and delaminating.

When the sidewall failes or the tread breaks up it can do a lot of damage to the van.

Im my car i set the rear seat headrests to align with the front handles. If a handle drops below the headrest then i know there maybe an issue with the tyre.

I also have my mirrors wide enough to see the side of the caravan.


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many will say its a bad idea but i am going to put some Oko slime in my van tyres..

my thinking goes thus.. any puncture will destroy the tyre and it will need replacing.. nothing lost there..

any puncture is likely to cause the tyre to get hot and delaminate causing expensive hard to repair damage to the van..

slime will stop an air leak in the tread area whilst the tyre is on the move.. even a large one.. most punctures are in the tread area..

punctures happen there is no way of stopping them..

slime may let a stationary tyre go down.. so its not perfect.. but going down when stationary is better than when on the move..

anything that prevents or helps prevent a tyre going down whilst on the move has to be a good thing..

my van tyres are going to get the slime.. i see no logical reason not to use it..

trog



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Perhaps the investment made on our caravans might justify the fitting of real time tyre pressure monitoring systems. Are the cheaper ones from ebay reliable?

Its a pity they don't monitor temperatures as well.


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I just realised that some do monitor temperature as well.


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ultimately that would be the real answer.. more for peace of mind than anything else.. mine being a cheaper van with less investment will just get the slime..

trog


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Ive seen the cheaper kits and with some the sensor distance is not really upto the distance from the caravans axle to the sensor unit, even if you fit the sensor in the back of the car.

Contemplated it, But how sure how they will hold up to not being used for so long also.

Never convinced in the tyre slimes. But if your going to get a new tyre rather than a repair then not being repairable after is not an issue.

Even it it fails to prevent the tyre deflating it would offer some benefit of lubricating the tyre as it runs flat.



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