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09/3/2016 at 12:21pm
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I have purchased a Bradcot Aspire 390 air awning and have the electric inflation pump which Bradcott supply.
It is not easy to connect this to my car battery as it is housed under battery cover so was going to take a seperate battery with me to inflate and deflate the awning.
However I am not keen on carrying round a battery in the car boot unless really necessary.
As a thought I was in Halfords the other day and noticed they sell a self contained power pack for starting a car etc. , which are charged from the mains.
I always book electric hook up pitches and was wondering if I could use one of these self contained power packs to connect the awning inflation pump too. I could recharge it if necessary from the caravan whilst on site if required. does anyone know if this would work?
Thanks


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Why don't you connect it to your caravan battery ?


09/3/2016 at 12:36pm
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as above,

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09/3/2016 at 12:46pm
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Hi Checklley 1973 and AL53HX , I had thought of that for a possibility, but not ideal as firstly the battery compartment is on the opposite side of the caravan and I have a 110 ah battery in the battery compartment
(For the movers) which is a tight fit , so don't really have enough room to get the pumps crocodile clips securely on the terminals.
I woukd be happy to buy a self contained power pack as would make things easy , but not sure if it would work the pump?


09/3/2016 at 1:22pm
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how many amps is the bradcott pump?
how many amp/hour (Ah) is the battery pack?

if the awning will take 15 min to inflate and the battery pack is 35Ah and the pump is 8h or less it will work.

i dont know any of the actual figures but 'you can do the maths' 35Ah means it can supply 35A for 1h.

there are also 240v electric pumps for inflating air beds etc. you could buy one of these from Argos, it may be cheaper and lighter than the battery pack?

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09/3/2016 at 3:59pm
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Hi Baileyjake
I will try and find out how many amps the pump is this evening. I had thought about using the power pack to inflate the awning directly as there is a digital gauge to set at pressure presumably to inflate tyres etc.
Wasn't too sure about using the power pack direct onto the awning and changing the connector valve , however as I understand it the Bradcot pump inflates quicker initially , then slows back as awning reaches near full inflation , without over inflating it, so would prefer to run the Bradcot pump off the power pack?




09/3/2016 at 7:46pm
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I have the awning and pump you have I just take out the leisure battery 110 amp blow it up and put it back don't take long.

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How about fitting a 13pin plug on the pump and plug into the car. There is a permanent supply on pin 9.


09/3/2016 at 10:07pm
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What plug is on the bradcot pump??

If it's a ciggy type, why not run a cable (which will carry the suitable amps too), from the caravan battery to near the entrance door??

Have it permanently wire to the battery, and at the other end, have the socket just maybe hidden inside a seat locker near the door?

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The problem is the amps the pump draws . It's a two stage pump and it draws up to twenty amps so if you use a cigar type socket make sure the wiring is up to the job certainly no socket in the car. That's why I use the leisure battery or pop the bonnet on the car and connect to the battery.

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Hi Clbewi
That's what I thought , do you think it would work though with the pump connected directly to one of the Power Packs similar to that Halfords sell?
Advantage if does , is that I can recharge the power pack on site if required, and not have to carry a wet acid battery in the boot?
The problem of using the car or caravan battery I mentioned in earlier post?
Thanks


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Quote: Originally posted by Dave11 on 09/3/2016
I have purchased a Bradcot Aspire 390 air awning and have the electric inflation pump which Bradcott supply.
It is not easy to connect this to my car battery as it is housed under battery cover so was going to take a seperate battery with me to inflate and deflate the awning.
However I am not keen on carrying round a battery in the car boot unless really necessary.
As a thought I was in Halfords the other day and noticed they sell a self contained power pack for starting a car etc. , which are charged from the mains.
I always book electric hook up pitches and was wondering if I could use one of these self contained power packs to connect the awning inflation pump too. I could recharge it if necessary from the caravan whilst on site if required. does anyone know if this would work?
Thanks


Why don't you buy a 7ah 12v battery which is small and will do the same job? Something like
this woudl be okay and will do about 4 - 5 erections


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We bought one of those power packs from Argos last year as a back up for if ever our caravan power failed, as l have to keep diabetic injections cool in the fridge. TBH, it was a waste of money, and was not powerful enough or have enough capacity to even pump up my daughters airbeds before it died and needed a recharge from the mains.

After contacting the manufacturer, we returned it to Argos and got a full refund as 'Not fit for Purpose'.

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Quote: Originally posted by Dave11 on 10/3/2016
Hi Clbewi
That's what I thought , do you think it would work though with the pump connected directly to one of the Power Packs similar to that Halfords sell?
Advantage if does , is that I can recharge the power pack on site if required, and not have to carry a wet acid battery in the boot?
The problem of using the car or caravan battery I mentioned in earlier post?
Thanks


Hi Dave 11
I see you have an X5 these have jump starting points under the bonnet to make it easier if you have a dead battery, you can connect the pump to these. If you google jump starting an x5 there's plenty of info out there. Hope this helps.


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I know the OP is way past the point of no return but it seems the plot has been lost somewhere along the line. Where, having an air-awning to dehassle picking up a few poles is being replaced by carrying an electric pump and manhandling a spare car battery around the pitch.

I expect that is progress, but its advantage is lost on me.


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OK, so the OP needs a more substantial socket that's better than a ciggy socket...

Maybe if he looks around a truckers type of shop??

They sometimes need a socket in their trucks that can power a kettle, fridge and even a microwave.

They maybe only 12 or 24volt, but they will be able to carry the amps...

So you could still go down the 'hard wired socket near caravan door' route....

Better than carrying another battery / power pack (extra kgs), and faffing with more cables / leads etc...?

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