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Message posted by Mick S.03/9/2020 at 3:54pm
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The air versions are a gimmick really. Yes, getting them off the floor to upright - literally that bit, is quicker than a pole version. But, getting them to that point takes longer due to the weight and unwieldyness. The pegging is same for both.
There are way too many second hand 'as new' air-awnings on the market for them to be the best thing since sliced bread. And, poled awnings are not too much cheaper, which you may expect if they had 'had their day' so to speak.
As said elsewhere; i was impressed watching a mate put his new awning up...but then decided i couldn't live with the positioning of the big numb 'trunks' inside, with it being only a porch version. They got in the way of everything.
They certainly are a 'marmite' product.

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I think it also depends on the size of your awning and the position of your windows. We had a large outwell air porch awning which for us was annoying and awkward. For our small caravan a poled full awning is way better - no faffing to get a seal around windows for a start. But I have just bought a 2m porch inflatable awning for weekends - small enough that it shouldn't have to go round the windows. Window position is key otherwise you're battling drafts

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Message posted by Hairywol06/9/2020 at 9:54pm
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I have a full awning for most of the year, and a porch awning for winter when all we want is somewhere for our coats and boots rather than a place to sit out.

Both are pole awnings and I really don't see why some find poles a problem. Plus, the real effort and time spent is on pegging and fettling once the frame it up, which is the same for air.

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Message posted by Colin2106/9/2020 at 10:42pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Hairywol on 06/9/2020
I have a full awning for most of the year, and a porch awning for winter when all we want is somewhere for our coats and boots rather than a place to sit out.

Both are pole awnings and I really don't see why some find poles a problem. Plus, the real effort and time spent is on pegging and fettling once the frame it up, which is the same for air.



Absolutely right Hairywol. Poles are light and easy to put up. We use a full poled-awning for longer stays, and don't bother with one at all if its only a couple of nights. There's only the two of us though. Pegging and fettling the awning once it is up is what takes the time, and that's the same for any awning. How quickly you can do it depends largely on your age and state of fitness. One thing I found last year that speeded this up considerably for me though was screw-in pegs. I can peg-down much quicker using an electric drill. I don't have to keep getting up and down with that.




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Is there anyway of sussing height for Porch awning apart from physically measuring it.
We have Abbey Vogue GTS 215SB 2003
Size 10 in normal awning speak
Downsized from bailey rsnger 620/6 and loving it!

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We have gone back to a poled awning due to the fact that our air awning kept deflating, which result in having to have a complete new bladder. It wasn’t a cheep one either. At least with a poled awning if a pole bent you can do a temporary fix. When an air awning deflates or goes bang there’s nothing you can do.......holiday spoiled.

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I have had my van now for coming on six years, the first four were with a full Dorema awning and that last two with a Vango Connect awning.

I would say of the two styles of awning I would recommend air awnings every day purely for their ease of erection (fnar fnar) however that's because I'm single and its virtually impossible to erect a conventional poled awning with one person.

With a couple of even a family I would say a poled awning is the better choice, they are lighter (but only if you pay extra for carbon or aluminium poles)and they are usually bigger (but not always)

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Quote: Originally posted by griff10553 on 11/9/2020
We have gone back to a poled awning due to the fact that our air awning kept deflating, which result in having to have a complete new bladder. It wasn’t a cheep one either. At least with a poled awning if a pole bent you can do a temporary fix. When an air awning deflates or goes bang there’s nothing you can do.......holiday spoiled.



My Vango Connect came with a patch and repair kit, im surprised yours didn't.


Message posted by Colin2114/9/2020 at 1:19pm
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Quote: Originally posted by shaggy2000 on 14/9/2020
I have had my van now for coming on six years, the first four were with a full Dorema awning and that last two with a Vango Connect awning.

I would say of the two styles of awning I would recommend air awnings every day purely for their ease of erection (fnar fnar) however that's because I'm single and its virtually impossible to erect a conventional poled awning with one person.

With a couple of even a family I would say a poled awning is the better choice, they are lighter (but only if you pay extra for carbon or aluminium poles)and they are usually bigger (but not always)



I would not have been able to put up my air awning at all on my own, as it took two of us to lift it and get it through the awning channel. We are both pensioners with back problems though, and I can't lift anything heavy above shoulder height due to a problem with my neck.

I probably could put up my much larger poled awning on my own though. I only need help with lifting various bits of the roof section over things like the awning light. I probably could do that bit on my own too, but it would be a bit fiddly. Although large, the roof section is quite light, so no lifting problems. Once that is up I normally do the rest on my own while my wife gets the kettle on.


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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 14/9/2020
Quote: Originally posted by shaggy2000 on 14/9/2020
I have had my van now for coming on six years, the first four were with a full Dorema awning and that last two with a Vango Connect awning.

I would say of the two styles of awning I would recommend air awnings every day purely for their ease of erection (fnar fnar) however that's because I'm single and its virtually impossible to erect a conventional poled awning with one person.

With a couple of even a family I would say a poled awning is the better choice, they are lighter (but only if you pay extra for carbon or aluminium poles)and they are usually bigger (but not always)



I would not have been able to put up my air awning at all on my own, as it took two of us to lift it and get it through the awning channel. We are both pensioners with back problems though, and I can't lift anything heavy above shoulder height due to a problem with my neck.

I probably could put up my much larger poled awning on my own though. I only need help with lifting various bits of the roof section over things like the awning light. I probably could do that bit on my own too, but it would be a bit fiddly. Although large, the roof section is quite light, so no lifting problems. Once that is up I normally do the rest on my own while my wife gets the kettle on.




I use an awning pulley (cant remember the brand) it really makes a huge difference.


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