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28/9/2017 at 9:40pm
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Hello and thanks for helping.

We are a family of 4 (2 teenagers) and two labs. We are new to caravaning and stuck as to which model to go for.

Our preferred layout is fixed bed, side dinette, kids will sleep in lounge, and would prefer a large fridge/freezer, and we are looking to travel to France & Spain.

Must be able to be towed by 2017 Kia Sportage, think max towing weight is 1500kg.

Can anyone help with suitable models?

Thx Jon, Liz, Henry, Alice, Sandy & Beth


28/9/2017 at 11:26pm
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What model Sportage? Most have a max weight of 1400kg and do not weigh 1500kg.

The 1.6GDI weighs approx 1450kg with a 1400kg max tow.

The recommended tow weight for that for a caravan with a gross laden weight around 1235kg.

Watch sellers that say yeah your cars fine or those that give the unladen or MIRO weights not the gross weights.

Is it a brand new van your looking at?


29/9/2017 at 10:52am
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It's a 2017 1.7 diesel grdi / I just used a car/caravan towing site? Budget is max £15k ,

Thx again


29/9/2017 at 12:14pm
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Just rechecked and 85% is running at 1266kg


29/9/2017 at 3:40pm
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There is in my view only ONE caravan to go for, given you have a similar combination of people to me, though my boys are younger: You state: "Our preferred layout is fixed bed, side dinette, kids will sleep in lounge." Not ideal as you need a lounge area / kitchen for late night use - TV etc (tend to use headphones though) to avoid disturbing children. So here is what we did, and I knew which model to go for within a month of looking on line. I bought a 2nd hand Bailey Pegasus 546 (MTPLM 1497 kg) with rear triple bunk bedroom for the boys. Youngest sleeps in bottom bunk (in case he rolls out and falls), older one in top bunk, leaving middle bunk for storage, clothes, books, toys. Dining table in rear can be used for meals but mainly used as boys study room and play table for drawing. They have their own TV in the back room, and after their bed time, the dividing door is shut and curtained across (we added a separate temperature controlled panel heater to the rear room as Bailey heating of rear room is inefficient) and we have the main part of the caravan for our own use. We made the front area into a permanent king size bed, which we use as a lounge by day (bed is made up, we place cushions against wall for seats, sitting facing front window which fits a 42 inch TV, strapped in place permanently when travelling. Large 2nd hand awning came with caravan provides additional / main dining space, in which we have camping cupboards, camping wardrobes, 2 tables and two dog beds (for our Golden Retriever and an Alsation), chairs, table lamps, a 2nd fridge etc, all very comfy. If caravanning in winter, we move younger boy to middle bunk and sleep both dogs on bottom bunk at night, though we recently bought two heated dog beds so dogs can sleep on their awning beds even on cool nights. Bad news is Bailey have stopped making the Pegasus with separate rear room, so you have to get a 2nd hand one - they go for about £10,000 to £11,000. Bathroom is above offside wheel arch so the space here is useful for - but we take two cars and a trailer for our extra luggage when we are away for a long time; we do not travel light! Heavier items then go in the 2 cars and trailer to keep weight down in caravan.

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29/9/2017 at 5:47pm
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Thanks for the response, unfortunately bunks are out of question as kids too long, think I'll have to review layout for a lighter van i.e double dinette


29/9/2017 at 7:53pm
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Surely if they are teens they will go to bed at the same time as you so a fixed bed may be fine. Only problem will be getting them up in the morning.

Our teen son didn't move before noon so we put him in a pup tent where he was perfectly happy. Soon after he didn't bother coming away any more.


29/9/2017 at 8:27pm
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I'd personally look for a van that will still tick all the boxes once the kids no longer join you!! If you get an awning try and get one with an annexe option, we've gone from 2 teenagers to just 1 now but sometimes up to 3 if our daughter decides to join us with her boyfriend and they sleep in the annexe. Our son is 15 now so we know his holidays with us are coming to an end. He used to sleep on the front sofas made up as a double but now he sleeps in the fixed bed and me and hubby sleep on the front sofas that way he can stay asleep and we can get up early without bothering him!!!


29/9/2017 at 9:16pm
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Thx I think we'll definitely look at an awning to give greater flexibility , will probably be down to one after one season anyway


01/10/2017 at 8:56pm
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I'd be inclined towards a double dinette. Front end set up as two singles and the rear a double bed. Kids up front you and wife use the rear double. When one of the kids drop out, you can swap around. When both opt out, you can leave the rear bed made up, closed off and use the rest of the van during the day.

Dogs go in the awning, or in with you when the kids flit.

Something like this one>

http://www.caravanfinder.co.uk/touring-caravans-for-sale/layouts-caravans/elddis-m........


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01/10/2017 at 9:50pm
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Max trailer load braked for manual is 1400 kg and 1600 kg for the auto. 85% of the Max gross kerb weight is 1393 KG so this is your max.



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