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12/1/2018 at 11:36pm
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Quote: Originally posted by comtracdriver on 12/1/2018
You all have been so helpful and would like to thank you all, something for me to tackle over the weekend, Thank you all.



You're welcome but it's also a bonus when someone can provide all the exact sizes of tools you need as well before hand. When I did mine I had to take the valve to a tool supplier to identify the thread to obtain the correct thread tap then measure what size spanners I needed before I could tackle the job in hand.
That's where this forum has it's merits as quite often help is at hand from the knowledge and experience of others.
Just to add here that if you do decide to remove the complete Cascade water tank to make the job a little easier then you will have to remove all the old waterproof sealant from the external flue, thoroughly clean the mating surfaces and then replace with fresh sealant which is not just an extra cost involved but can be quite messy too.
Good luck anyway and hope you manage to repair the broken non return valve.



13/1/2018 at 1:28pm
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Tank been inspected need a recon Cascade Rapide 2 heater tank found one £150 plus fitting, but I did not realy want it connected for gas just electric is that possable.


13/1/2018 at 2:25pm
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Yes, don't connect it to the gas supply.


13/1/2018 at 2:27pm
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Meaning make sure the gas tap for the supply to the water is turned off rather than just don't reconnect the pipe otherwise there will be an almighty bang at some stage probably at the same time you are lighting the oven!


13/1/2018 at 2:34pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Grandad Kenny on 13/1/2018
Meaning make sure the gas tap for the supply to the water is turned off rather than just don't reconnect the pipe otherwise there will be an almighty bang at some stage probably at the same time you are lighting the oven!



I would also blank off the old pipe that supplied the water heater, just to be sure. Alternatively, a better option would be to reconnect the gas supply as before, but leave the tap supplying the heater turned off. That way you have the option to use gas at a later date if you wish, and also everything is still intact when you come to sell, as the buyer may want to only use gas.

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Dont quite understan when the chap with the recon said some other gas fitting could be different and if mie is not the same as the recon it will be another £100 can someone shed a light please


13/1/2018 at 8:34pm
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Carver made two Cascade models which the first was the MKI which was gas operated only and the second model (MKII) could be operated by either gas or electric which was called the GE (Gas/Electric) model. Maybe the MKI and MKII models have different inlet points for the gas connection thus the extra cost to re-route the gas pipe to it.


14/1/2018 at 11:19am
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Tang55 hi yes managed to remove water heater ok, looked on the labels and its a Cascade Rapide GE (9 litre Gas and Electric 1999 so it should be a straight swop, dont know where the other £100 come from, you have been very helpful, thanks.


14/1/2018 at 3:07pm
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You're welcome but take care when connecting the water pipe up to the non return valve because like I said in my previous post, they age harden over time and become brittle and likely to snap. If that happens you're back to square one again. However, once the old tank is removed it's worth replacing the broken the non return valve (even with the cost of the tools required) as not only is going to be easier to repair (out of the caravan) but there's also a market out there for this obsolete part which you will get between £150 - £200 for as a reconditioned unit. It's a part still required in some older caravans fitted with the Carver Cascade MK.II GE hot water tank that was factory fitted as standard at that time.



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