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14/3/2022 at 10:45am
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Quote: Originally posted by Colin21 on 14/3/2022
Safefill sounds like a good plan to me if you can justify the initial cost. In our case it wouldn't be worth it as we simply don't use enough gas, so it would probably take many years if not decades to recoup the cost. We did think about it at one time. Not sure where we could get a refill anyway as we didn't get as far as looking into that once we realised how much the initial cost would be.




As we don't go off grid much, it took us a big longer to recoup our outlay, but now we are smiling as saving £25 a refill and can refill at any time. As we use the caravan in the cooler months heating using gas and electric does help.


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our local coach company had a lot of there coaches on gas. I took my calor light bottle and filled it up for £11.00. Unfortunately he no longer uses gas. There must be others around who can fill them up for you.

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21/3/2022 at 9:59am
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My local outlet always has loads of calor bottles on its forecourt and when we had the last storm and lost power I found out why. I dug out my old calor space heater from the garage which I keep for just such an emergency and naturally found the bottle empty. A 15kg refill cost £55, must be the most expensive in Hampshire if not the south coast or is this the norm

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i just paid £25 quid for a 6K bottle from my local brownhills depot..

i was glad to get it..

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21/3/2022 at 12:56pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Logan1 on 21/3/2022
My local outlet always has loads of calor bottles on its forecourt and when we had the last storm and lost power I found out why. I dug out my old calor space heater from the garage which I keep for just such an emergency and naturally found the bottle empty. A 15kg refill cost £55, must be the most expensive in Hampshire if not the south coast or is this the norm



We have such a heater in the cupboard under the stairs, and if I remember right it has a nearly full bottle in it. I bet that bottle didn't cost anything like £55 though, as the heater hasn't been out of that cupboard in nearly 30 years.


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22/3/2022 at 4:09pm
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That's a bit dicey Colin keeping a nearly full gas bottle under the stairs Although, I suppose its no different than having a gas meter under the stairs

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22/3/2022 at 4:46pm
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Quote: Originally posted by Logan1 on 22/3/2022
That's a bit dicey Colin keeping a nearly full gas bottle under the stairs Although, I suppose its no different than having a gas meter under the stairs



Yes I must admit I have sometimes wondered about that myself. I never even thought about when I put it in there many years ago. I have just discovered the spare bottle I had for it hidden away behind the shed. I had forgotten about that one too until I decided to clear an overgrown patch back there earlier, being as it was such a beautiful spring day today. Best day of the year so far I think.

At least our gas meter isn't under the stairs with the gas heater. It's in an outside cupboard by the front door.


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Quote: Originally posted by Logan1 on 22/3/2022
That's a bit dicey Colin keeping a nearly full gas bottle under the stairs Although, I suppose its no different than having a gas meter under the stairs



What about a gas bottle - or two, yards from your head when you are asleep in the caravan? And gas meters are connected to ....gas pipes - that come through your wall.


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I was walking along the Saxon Shoreway at Allhallows caravan park today, I noticed a couple of pitches where the caravan had been removed but the Calor Gas bottles remained at the side of the pitch.
Is it now easier to replace a caravan than to change the gas bottles?


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Raised a titter, and obviously tongue in cheek.

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23/3/2022 at 11:19am
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Quote: Originally posted by Mick S. on 22/3/2022
Quote: Originally posted by Logan1 on 22/3/2022
That's a bit dicey Colin keeping a nearly full gas bottle under the stairs Although, I suppose its no different than having a gas meter under the stairs



What about a gas bottle - or two, yards from your head when you are asleep in the caravan? And gas meters are connected to ....gas pipes - that come through your wall.



Without wishing to alarm anyone, comparing LPG cylinders with mains gas is technically not a direct comparison. The explosion/fire risks of 'gas' are much the same regardless of source being mains or LPG cylinder, where LPG gets a bit scary is that if the leak is of the liquid LPG, then the volumes of gas takes on a whole different scale!

LPG liquid generates 270 times the volume of 'gaseous' gas. For a start 1Kg of LPG equals nearly 2 litres volume of liquid, so your typical 6Kg cylinder has 12 litres of liquid, that can generate 3240 litres of gas in a very short space of time! It gets worse, it needs mixing with air to become explosive, that ratio is around 1(gas):16(air), so you could find yourself with an explosive gas cloud of 5184 litres, that's nearly 52 cubic metres of highly explosive gas/air mix!..... and that can accumulate in a very short space of time, far, far quicker than any leaking or even fully open domestic gas main could achieve!

I was within 1 mile of the Buncefield Oil Depot in Hemel Hempstead when the LPG leak exploded there in 2005, biggest explosion in Europe since the war, I caught the percussive blast and and saw the flames licking hundreds of feet in the air, I will never forget it! Different scale of leak, but it taught me HUGE respect for LPG! If you need reminding or info on the scale of that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buncefield_fire

Thankfully, LPG cylinders are generally incredibly safe, there must be 100s thousands of them around this country alone, and when did you last hear of an incident! Just wouldn't want one 'inside' unnecessarily!



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