When I got home from a 130 mile journey I saw a chunk missing from my wheel.
I contacted Bailey for a new wheel, 1993 Orion "we no longer stock those"
Is there an alternative? thinking I may have to buy 2 wheels and a new alko lock "we don't have anything listed"
So what do I do? "use the steel spare wheel" 20220516_090739 by Sigma Projects, on Flickr
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Remember, if you buy something you bought it, not brought it.
I would measure the PCD of the bolt pattern, along with the hub diameter and wheel off set, and see if other bailey wheels might fit. Does your manual not reference the wheel size?
PCD = Pitch Circle Diameter.
On any trailer wheel assembly or rim, the PCD is the diameter of the circle which passes through the centre of all the wheel bolts or wheel rim holes. The center of every bolt hole lies along the edge of the pitch circle and are evenly spaced. The pitch circle diameter is typically expressed in mm and is given along with the number of bolts/bolt holes. One example is 5x100; this means there are 5 bolts evenly spaced about a 100mm bolt circle.
Hub Diameter = Centre of the wheel where it fits over the hub.
Wheel offset =
Offset is the distance in millimetres from the centre line of the wheel to the wheel’s mounting face. Given that the mounting face can be either in front of or behind the centreline, the offset can be either neutral, positive or negative.
Quote: Originally posted by TrigGLX on 16/5/2022
I would measure the PCD of the bolt pattern, along with the hub diameter and wheel off set, and see if other bailey wheels might fit. Does your manual not reference the wheel size?
PCD = Pitch Circle Diameter.
On any trailer wheel assembly or rim, the PCD is the diameter of the circle which passes through the centre of all the wheel bolts or wheel rim holes. The center of every bolt hole lies along the edge of the pitch circle and are evenly spaced. The pitch circle diameter is typically expressed in mm and is given along with the number of bolts/bolt holes. One example is 5x100; this means there are 5 bolts evenly spaced about a 100mm bolt circle.
Hub Diameter = Centre of the wheel where it fits over the hub.
Wheel offset =
Offset is the distance in millimetres from the centre line of the wheel to the wheel’s mounting face. Given that the mounting face can be either in front of or behind the centreline, the offset can be either neutral, positive or negative.
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Chris
All the above info should be stamped (cast into) the inside of the wheel.
Sorry, but I think you might need a new tyre as well, going by the mark/possible damage on the sidewall!
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Long shot, but... there are several alloy wheel manufacturers in the UK, why not try them directly? Bailey don`t make alloy wheels, so have bought them in from a manufacturer at some point, so I`d by trying my luck by firing out some emails (and ask Bailey who their supplier was - they must know).
If you look at the second photo it shows where it is made.
I have all the info to get a new pair of wheels but the Alko lock will not fit unless I get the same. If I get a pair of wheels for a different caravan another lock is over £300. If I get made in UK aftermarket wheels there will be no Alko lock. (unless I get to work on lathe and milling machine)
Lucky escape indeed! Good chance that with it's rim integrity compromised it would continue to crack and break up!
Chances are it's an Alko chassis (looks like you have the lock receiver showing through the wheel in photo), which AFAIK doesn't vary from one caravan manufacturer to the next, so almost any old caravan wheel(s) should fit if the right tyre/rim size and 5 bolt! DON'T go for car wheels, firstly your caravan loading may be too high for them (car of similar weight is spread over 4 wheels, caravan is only on two, therefore twice the loading!), all other things being equal, hub offset is often different so tyre/wheel may foul.
Breakers is obvious choice to get a matching wheel, but a matched pair from different van may be easier to obtain, ensure you get the matching wheel bolts, the conical seat does vary on some, and the wrong bolts can damage wheel or not seat correctly and work loose on the road. The wheels and bolts are NOT Alko parts, they are sourced from elsewhere by the caravan manufacturers.
Unless you know you've clunked the rim to initiate the failure, I'd be wary of the other wheel just in case there's a design/manufacturing fault!
OK, this may sound a bit left field.....but here goes
On the basis that you can`t see both sides of the caravan at the same time, would anyone be aware that the wheels don`t match? I would consider something like this if it fits:-
If the damaged wheel is on the nearside swap them over so your wheel lock still fits and you are mobile without breaking the bank. It also buys you time to try to source an exact replacement if you are bothered.
I would be looking for a big pot hole in the road not too far away and attempt to make a claim for damage from the council.
Maybe not an ethical thing to do but with the state of the roads these days I would definitely consider it 🙄.
I'm surprised you didn't have a blowout!
Quote: Originally posted by malkeiron on 16/5/2022
I would be looking for a big pot hole in the road not too far away and attempt to make a claim for damage from the council.
Maybe not an ethical thing to do but with the state of the roads these days I would definitely consider it 🙄.
I'm surprised you didn't have a blowout!
Ive never seen anything like this, is it common on allys? Theres every chance a pothole has done it somewhere. Unless you are one of the ones getting too near the concrete kerb at the ferry check in, and had to reverse like my mate did. Except, you hit it!
I would of thought a caravan breaker and patience will be your best bet. We have been in a similar situation ourselves couldnt get an identical replacement but fortunately had an alloy spare so swapped.
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Topic: Pi$$ed off and a lucky escape
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Except, you hit it!
