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Subject Topic: 1980`s ABI Monza 1000T towing & electrics
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via mobile 17/4/2025 at 10:48am
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Hi,
I have the opportunity to purchase a Monza 1000T and have to confess I have never owned or towed a caravan but want some cheaper family holidays.
I have a Kia E-Niro that is able to tow upto 750kg and need a tow bar and electrics fitting.
Lots of places statement that if caravan is pre 2009 7 pin electrics are need some mention twin 7 pin and some talk about a converter attachment to make it 13 pin useable. Could people please advise me what electrics are on the caravan and what pin electrics to get fitted.
The more I Google and look around the more confused I am. 🤯 Thanks.


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Now there is a misnomer, "cheaper family holidays".

Everybody at one time or another was under that assumption.

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Your best bet is to get a look at the actual caravan and check what plug it's fitted with. Always bear in mind that newer vans are 13 pin.
Cheaper holidays are still available by using the clubs CL/CS networks or rallies.
It will largely depend on your setup. Will you need to hook up or will you be self sufficient using solar etc?


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My caravan hols a hell of a lot cheaper than b and bs or guest houses or hotels. We been caravanning for 25 years and never paid more than £20 a nite. We do use CL sites and wouldn't dream of going on a super duper site with club room ,swimming ect. We are old foggies and prefer quiet sites. All kids flown the nest so it's our peaceful relaxing time which we get on small 5 van sites, lovely.


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It may be if you don't know where to look. But with the type of lifestyle we have a small caravan will provide convenience for us which will be priceless in itself


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Quote: Originally posted by Dave and Cyn on 17/4/2025
Your best bet is to get a look at the actual caravan and check what plug it's fitted with. Always bear in mind that newer vans are 13 pin.
Cheaper holidays are still available by using the clubs CL/CS networks or rallies.
It will largely depend on your setup. Will you need to hook up or will you be self sufficient using solar etc?




We will probably use standard hook up for now. With a view to installing solar before next year.
The caravan is a couple hours drive each way so can't exactly just nip to see it to check plugs. I have sent some messages and 3ven download the original brochure so hopefully I get some answers. I'm thinking I'll probably get a 13 pin as adaptors are available. Thanks for the advice.


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Quote: Originally posted by SHANTY SINGER on 17/4/2025
My caravan hols a hell of a lot cheaper than b and bs or guest houses or hotels. We been caravanning for 25 years and never paid more than £20 a nite. We do use CL sites and wouldn't dream of going on a super duper site with club room ,swimming ect. We are old foggies and prefer quiet sites. All kids flown the nest so it's our peaceful relaxing time which we get on small 5 van sites, lovely.



Our little one is only 4 so we don't need a huge amount on the site but space for us to be outside if weather permits is great. My dad had a caravan when I was a kid and as a family we loved it. The other half would love a campervan but as I'm the only driver I figured a small caravan (due to my limited tow weight) would be a good start and that way if we want a day trip off site we can leave everything set up and take the car.


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The max towing weight capacity for an E-Niro is as you state 750kg. Are you sure that the maximum gross weight of the caravan is less than that figure?


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I agree is the caravan light enough for your car


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Yes having downloaded the original manual and it states gross laden weight is 715kg.


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Very old caravans had a black 7 pin which operated the caravan road lights.

Slightly newer caravans had a black 7 pin which operated the caravan road lights and a grey 7 pin which operated the caravan fridge, charged its battery and other little things.

Modern caravans have a 13 pin which operates everything.

You can get an adaptor which will plug into the 13 pin and allow a black 7 pin to be plugged in.

You can get an adaptor which allows a black 7 pin and a grey 7 pin to be plugged in.

Vans with a 13 pin do not have to have every pin wired. Some functions can be left unwired on the car and this will save some money.

The 13 pin socket is a much better and longer lasting connection than the old 7 pin types.


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Quote: Originally posted by navver on 17/4/2025
Very old caravans had a black 7 pin which operated the caravan road lights.

Slightly newer caravans had a black 7 pin which operated the caravan road lights and a grey 7 pin which operated the caravan fridge, charged its battery and other little things.

Modern caravans have a 13 pin which operates everything.

You can get an adaptor which will plug into the 13 pin and allow a black 7 pin to be plugged in.

You can get an adaptor which allows a black 7 pin and a grey 7 pin to be plugged in.

Vans with a 13 pin do not have to have every pin wired. Some functions can be left unwired on the car and this will save some money.

The 13 pin socket is a much better and longer lasting connection than the old 7 pin types.



Amazingly helpful thank you.


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Hi. A 7 pin connection is more than adequate for an older caravan. Ours is a 1992 model and that is what we use and it's fine. 13 pin might be longer lasting, but do you want it to last more than 33 years?

Please be aware that as you are towing with an EV, you will need to recharge much more frequently when you are towing than you would normally. Caravans have a large frontal area which creates quite a bit of wind-drag, so even if the caravan is light it will still take quite a bit of energy to tow it. Be careful how much stuff you take with you as light caravans are very easily overloaded, and you will be towing very close to your car's limit anyway.


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