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Message posted by Ratty19/9/2012 at 2:21pm
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Message posted by ferretlady19/9/2012 at 9:59pm
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Would love one, but not enough pennies!!!!!  17

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Message posted by hankakampa20/9/2012 at 12:37am
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being the "talk of the campsite" doesnt interest me at all - id rather be discreet actually as someone might come along with a pin or a knitting needle in the night and stab the inflateable poles! if some campers are capable of smearing poo all over toilet walls ( from other thread ) than they are more than bad enough to burst the inflateable tents!.

but to able able to put up a bigger + heavier ( polycotton ) tent than i could manage of the steel poled variety on my own would be big bonus for me.

an inflateable trout or bear lake6 would be great!

im very much looking forward to seeing these tents at the shows - i just wonder though with Outwells recent publicity over quality issues on various forums - is their 1st inflateable system going to be robust?

im not sure i want to be a guinea pig for an expensive tent - i might wait for MKII versions to come out once they have ironed out the glitches which will come out when the 1st owners put them through their paces and then feedback to dealers, outwell and forums.

Karsten of course were here with this idea donkeys years ago and are still making inflateable tents - im sure outwell will have looked at a karsten to see how they do it.

Kampa also bringing out Inflateable tents - so its going to be an intersting year!

so yes, im very much looking forward to the shows!

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Message posted by martinjp6520/9/2012 at 8:28am
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HMMMM seems to be almost identical system to that on the KAMPA "leaked" youtube footage co-operation espionage or coincidence?

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Message posted by phathamster20/9/2012 at 10:06am
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i am still not convinced that its quicker or requires less effort than a standard poled tent.

if you only have say 3/4 poles to insert then, the time and effort it takes to pump would be about the same in my book.

however it does look easier for one person to put up, but they never seem to show pegging out or laying the frame out in the videos.

jury's still out for me i do like the layout of that tent though.

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Message posted by dodge2020/9/2012 at 9:25pm
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Just watched the video on you tube and the first two conclusions i have drawn are; Man has heart attack pumping up tent and  tent wobbles like a drunk in the slightest of breezes.    I know they'll have been tested and i know Vango have had their system for a while now but I don't think I could trust one of these in a strong wind.  And yes I am open to and do embrace new ideas and technologies.

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Message posted by Cross Camping21/9/2012 at 10:32pm
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Hi Dodge20
I have used the Vango eternity 600 this summer in some pretty terrible weather and it been really stable, yes I needed to tighten up the front and rear storm straps and guys every so often and check the tube pressure every other day but I would check any tent over every day during bad weather.
as for the Outwells, when I was at the latest trade show we had an afternoon were the wind picked up and the Outwells were super stable.

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Message posted by jandjstott23/9/2012 at 11:22am
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Hi Ratty,

Have Outwell released any information on prices yet? I understand from another thread that the Kampa airbeam is looking like £1500 or so. If thats the sort of figure Outwell are looking at its obviously going to be a niche market.

I like the concept but am unlikely to ever buy one as our present tent, a Cabanon Biscaya 320 is still in superb condition after 3 years and 18 to 20 weeks of use in all weathers and should last us for several more years until we are too old for tenting (can you ever be too old?). Points taken from the above posts regarding deliberate damage and if you only have 3 poles (as we do, not counting the canopy pole), it probably is just as quick to pitch. Also accept that it would be much easier for one to pitch on their own.

Karsten were obviously way ahead of their time then (and way ahead on price!).

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Message posted by Cross Camping24/9/2012 at 3:25pm
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We have an older couple who own an Outwell Trout Lake tent and said to me that they were thinking this would be their last summer of camping as they love cotton tents but the pitching of the Trout was just getting to much. They were over the moon when I showed them an image of the Outwell smart air tent thats like the Trout lake/nevada m, they think this could add 5 years onto their camping....

Now if thats not a good news story I dont know what is...

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Message posted by mcguire607824/9/2012 at 4:02pm
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Nice story Gary, did you advise them of the anticipated prices (£1000 +)...? I so hope they do not have the initial   Vango Airbeam issues.

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Message posted by arsenaldes24/9/2012 at 4:08pm
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What I want to know is do you always have to pump it up as quick as the bloke in the video as it looks a bit to energetic for me at my age

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Message posted by Cross Camping24/9/2012 at 4:18pm
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mcguire6078 Price isnt the issue for these people and its not for some others either...After looking at the Outwells I really think the quality is there.

As for pumping up as fast as the guy in the video, isnt that how we all do it...

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Message posted by splendidisolation24/9/2012 at 4:46pm
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Quote: Originally posted by dodge20 on 20/9/2012
Just watched the video on you tube and the first two conclusions i have drawn are; Man has heart attack pumping up tent and  tent wobbles like a drunk in the slightest of breezes.    I know they'll have been tested and i know Vango have had their system for a while now but I don't think I could trust one of these in a strong wind.  And yes I am open to and do embrace new ideas and technologies.



I know people worry about leaks and there were a few issues, but I presume these weren't actually caused during a storm. I have a small Karsten (£200 off fleabag as price is an issue for me!), and I can't see how the wind alone would ever damage the tubes. If I press hard on a tube I can force it to bend inwards and eventually form a crease, (a bit like when the garden hose does and the water stops coming!), but it just pops back up again....it does not increase the pressure enough to do any damage. In very high winds it can wobble like any tent but there really is nothing to 'break' as with poles. Have to admit it did take a while to 'trust' the tubes in terms of general leaks but I've never worried in high winds...I think the whole tent would be ripped from it's pegs/guys before the tubes failed. Personally, the only problem I can imagine is an age related slow leak rather than a catastrophic failure!

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Nooooooooo ive had to slow down a bit now im pushing 60 and want see 61

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Message posted by joy_family25/9/2012 at 11:03am
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I had a good experience with the Vango Eternity 600 this year - there was a LOT of time saved not faffing around with poles - the tent seemed stable but there wasn't a lot of wind and no rain.

On a side note - Gary, how did you test the pressure of the airbeams in the Eternity? There is a pressure gauge on the pump but this only seemed to register pressure whilst you were actually pumping the pump - is there another way to test pressure?

I'm happy there are more inflatable tents on the market as our tent won't stand out quite so much.

All the best

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hi joy...
No, the only way is to get rid of the dump valve and use the pressure gauge with the pump. I just check the tubes every couple of days and maybe added 1 or 2 pumps.


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