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Message posted by Francais on 16/11/2018 at 3:00pm
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Yes, but what if they reduce the duty on petrol, to encourage folk to hand there diesel car into the local scrap yard.

Petrol could easily come down to 75p lt and diesel upto £1.50lt, in fact I think we are on the way already.

Already the gap between petrol and diesel can be as much as 20p.

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Francais too many things run on diesel, if that happened the country would grind to a halt as all the haulage companies would park up & rightfully protest.

Diesel cars have already plummeted in value

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Some Truck manufacturers already have prototypes fuelled by LPG,Biogas,battery powered and Hydrogen cells.
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Message posted by 664DaveS on 16/11/2018 at 5:19pm
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Some cruise ships are gas turbine,so use kerosene,been on two! Lower emissions.
The new Princess ship planned will run on compressed natural gas, as do some buses.

I believe new technology will further clean up diesel emissions.
Fossil fuels must run out so alternative technology is the way forward.

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Message posted by Colin21 on 16/11/2018 at 6:04pm
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Fossil fuels will definitely run out someday, but nobody seems to really know when. I can remember when they were saying that the oil would run out in the 1990s, but here we are over 20 years later than that and still running on oil.

As for the difference in price between petrol and diesel, I can remember when diesel was much cheaper than petrol, but that was when nobody wanted a diesel car because they were noisy, smelly, and had all the performance of a road-roller. They also belched out clouds of black smoke, and that was regarded as normal. Then came the revolution is diesel technology, diesel cars became desirable, and the price of diesel went up!

Diesel has cost more than petrol ever since except for a small period fairly recently, but it didn't last for long. Average difference in price in this area is around 4p, and I haven't really seen it much more than that anywhere I have been.

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One can only assume that Lithium will not run out.

Anyone naive enough to think that BEVs are the cleaner, or more environmentally friendly alternative to fossil fuel, do some research into the huge environmental tragedies that are occurring mining Lithium in the name of progress.

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Quote: Originally posted by Mike3003 on 16/11/2018
One can only assume that Lithium will not run out.

Anyone naive enough to think that BEVs are the cleaner, or more environmentally friendly alternative to fossil fuel, do some research into the huge environmental tragedies that are occurring mining Lithium in the name of progress.

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I have Mike. It pays to look at the bigger picture somtimes.


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It can't be viewed in isolation,the environmental and human tragedies aren't confined just to Lithium mining,it has to be viewed alongside the environmental pollution caused by the mining/extraction of fossil fuels being burnt burnt by the ICE.
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